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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-08-28 07:05 pm

[ SECRET POST #2795 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2795 ⌋

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[Law & Order: Criminal Intent]


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[Fred Astaire/Ginger Rogers]


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[Jeeves and Wooster]


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[Yahtzee/Zero Punctuation]


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[Markiplier]


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[Jackie Chan Adventures]


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[The Parent Trap]


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[Alexander]


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(Anonymous) 2014-08-28 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
He doesn't actually speak English very well, he just memorizes his lines. I'd imagine voicing an entire series would be too hard.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-28 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Uh... Pretty sure I've seen talk show interviews with him and while it's clear English isn't his first language, he doesn't have to memorize lines like a robot for that.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-28 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
He memorizes his lines phonetically.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-28 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Naw, he's not that badly off, he does understand what he's saying and what others are saying to him. He just flubs our grammar and vocabulary at times, especially if the delivery needs to be snappy.

Jackie's EMPIRE podcast interview!

(Anonymous) 2014-08-29 02:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Listen to his recent EMPIRE podcast interview recorded in front of a live audience where he talks about his latest film, the movie business, stunt work, etc. His English is fine and actually adorable (and he talks so fast, which isn't easy to do in a foreign language!), he even admits his English used to be worse in the past when he first got started and that it's still not very good, but that's just Jackie being insecure, like someone else had already pointed out. Everyone in the audience LOVED him, as did the podcasters.

Like Jackie said once: "Everyone adore me." :D

(Anonymous) 2014-08-29 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think this is true and I'm beginning to side eye you a bit because it feels like you're assuming his accent means he doesn't actually know how to speak English. Speaking as someone who has many Asian relatives who speak heavily accented English, it's unlikely to be that extreme. Also, if he's appearing on talk shows where the interviews are going to be more off the cuff, memorizing your lines phonetically isn't even possible.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-28 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
His English is probably a little better than my parents, who are also Asian, but I'm pretty sure he's just insecure since there are a lot of people who expect everyone to speak with perfect English. From what I've read, when Jackie first tried breaking into the US movie industry, he was told that audiences were put off by his lack of "good" English skills. There are some people who have a hard time understanding what people say when someone speaks with an accent, but that's not the fault of the person with the accent. I've always felt like Jackie Chan feels like it's something people can't overlook, but honestly, I think the majority of his fans who speak English don't care.

TBH I don't think his English is that bad. I think his English is easy enough to understand when he does interviews.

It's the same thing as when people complained that they couldn't understand Ken Wantanabe in "Inception". It wasn't as bad as people were claiming it to be.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-28 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I have no problems understanding either Jackie Chan or Watanabe, but then again I'm Chinese-American. My parents don't have a heavy accent, but I have relatives/friends who do, so maybe I'm used to it. /shrug

(Anonymous) 2014-08-28 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Too many people make no effort to understanding anybody with an 'accent'. They just automatically tune out and then say it's too hard.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2014-08-29 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
There are also some interesting studies about how people seem to perceive an accent as stronger or less noticeable depending on what the speaker looks like, where the same recording was used with different pictures and got different results.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-29 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
I don't suppose you'd remember any in particular? That sounds really interesting.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2014-08-29 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know if you'll come back to check this at some point but I couldn't respond earlier because of sleep issues.

I came across these studies in a psychology textbook that I don't have anymore and now I can't find any information about this. I spent hours searching and it's really frustrating me and now I'm doubting my memory even though I have a really clear memory of talking to my mom about this after reading about it.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-30 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
not sure if you'll be getting notifications on this, but this study (or one like it) exists, although i can't find it myself either. the one i read about didn't use voice recordings, though, just two people of different races raised in the same english-speaking locale lecturing the same class, and the students being asked to rate the lecturers on their english accents, where the students invariably marked the non-white lecturer as having a heavy accent :\

(Anonymous) 2014-08-29 04:46 am (UTC)(link)
I have a hearing disorder, and while I can usually put together what people are saying well enough, if they have an accent - especially if it's an accent I don't hear often - it all ends up sounding like nonsense to me, no matter how hard I try to understand it.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-29 06:07 am (UTC)(link)
As long as you at least try. The problem is the people who don't.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-28 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
He's also an incredibly busy person. It seems like he always is doing some project of some sort at all times.