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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-08-28 07:05 pm

[ SECRET POST #2795 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2795 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Law & Order: Criminal Intent]


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[Fred Astaire/Ginger Rogers]


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[Jeeves and Wooster]


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[Yahtzee/Zero Punctuation]


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[Markiplier]


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[Jackie Chan Adventures]


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[The Parent Trap]


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[Alexander]


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[Starsky and Hutch]











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Re: Just finished watching The Celluloid Closet

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-08-29 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
I saw it years ago, when still in film school - not part of an assignment, but just because I saw it at my library's film section and thought it might be interesting - and it was. I found it really interesting, especially as I just knew less about lgbt issues and censorship back then.

What I find really interesting is that we can't really see those movies as the people back then did - because we have a different cultural context - i.e. something might look terribly gay to us while it wasn't back then, and we in turn might miss subtext those audiences might have picked up on.

A lot of the tropes still remain in fiction today, though, albeit updated, and there still seems to be a reluctance for gay leads if the story is not particularly about sexuality.

Re: Just finished watching The Celluloid Closet

(Anonymous) 2014-08-29 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Yeah, I was watching it because I'm in a class called Before Stonewall right now, about LGBT art and literature and culture before the Stonewall riots in 1969. We stopped about halfways through the movie, so I didn't watch the rest until today.

The cultural context thing is definitely interesting, and definitely something to keep in mind. The snippet from the 1927 movie "Wings" was fascinating, because it's doesn't so much read as queer to me than just... feminine, or rather, what our culture has deemed to be feminine, i.e., expressions of emotion, especially physically.

(Though I will say I don't think that argument holds as much water when you've got the screenwriters and actors saying, "Yeah, that was totally gay, we did that to get around the censors.")

Well, there is a lot of the same bullshit, but... I guess I'm trying to say it's bullshit in different ways? Or at least the scope of the documentary would probably change, if it was remade today, and I'd be interested to see those changes and why they were made.