[ SECRET POST #2797 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2797 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

04. http://oi59.tinypic.com/fn6xed.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

Most reinterpretations and merchandise are likely based on Judy Garland's portrayal because it is the most popular (by far). Hell I didn't know Dorothy was not a teen until now.

[(Anonymous)]

They tried as hard as they could to make her look younger, though. They had to bind down her boobs and everything. Shirley Temple, IMO, would have made a far superior Dorothy, but she just couldn't sing Over the Rainbow.

[(Anonymous)]

So what if that is what they did? That is not what the audience saw. And the audience's opinion FAR outweighs what TPTB were intending.

[(Anonymous)]

I thought (heard) Shirley Temple refused the role because it didn't pay as much as she wanted. If she just couldn't sing the song, couldn't they have gotten someone else to do it and dubbed it in?

[(Anonymous)]

Know, Shirley was supposed to be Dorothy but since she wasn't contracted to MGM(?) they were supposed to loan her out in exchange for one of the other company's stars (and I want to say it was Clark Gable she was being swapped with? not sure), but the deal fell through and the studio turned to Judy as a second choice.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, this is what I heard. Actors were contracted by specific studios in those days, and you couldn't necessarily get an actor from a different studio. They wanted Shirley Temple, but weren't able to get her.

Convinced Temple would successfully move from child star to teenage actress, Zanuck declined a substantial offer from MGM to star Temple as Dorothy in The Wizard of Oz and cast her instead in Susannah of the Mounties, her last money-maker for Twentieth Century-Fox.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirley_Temple

[(Anonymous)]

I get secondhand embarrassment for Garland in TWoZ. I didn't mind it as a kid, but the older I got the more ridiculous her obvious figure and womany singing voice is with her pigtailed, gosh-oh-golly personality. If you watched the movie for the first time as an adult, you'd probably thing Dorothy was "slow", not a prepubescent child.

[(Anonymous)]

If you watched the movie for the first time as an adult, you'd probably thing Dorothy was "slow", not a prepubescent child.

I saw it as a teenager, and while I didn't think Dorothy was "slow", I wondered why on earth an obvious teenager was dressing and talking like an eight year old. I thought she was just supposed to be clueless. It wasn't until years later that I realized no, she was supposed to be eight years old.

[tabaqui]

Really? I never thought that. She seemed like an unworldly adolescent who'd grown up rather isolated in a small, poor community. Neither slow nor weird, just - innocent.

[insanenoodlyguy]

There's also the fact that a lot of people default to Judy Garland, who wasn't 10.

[(Anonymous)]

She was supposed to be younger though, even if it wasn't fooling anyone. A lot of her actions seem way dumber coming out of a fourteen-year-old than they would from a ten-year old.

[(Anonymous)]

Seemed about right for a redneck hick farmgirl from the middle of nowhere to me.

[shortysc22]

I guess one of the better ones would have been the 1980s Japanese one. It was dubbed over in English and someone in my family taped it for me.

I just enjoy all interpretations and have a massive collection of Wizard of Oz everything.

[(Anonymous)]

I once stumbled across a burlesque version.

I'm not saying it was a terrible show, but it kind of ruined my childhood memories and my desire to watch anything Oz-related.

[pantswarrior]

I remember being so confused when Return to Oz came out when I was a little kid. I'd seen The Wizard of Oz repeatedly, so I was like "Why is Dorothy a kid like me now when she was an adult before?"

Then I read the books and realized that they were apparently trying to pass off Judy Garland as a little girl and was all WTF even though I was like 7 at the time.

But yeah. To the majority of people, Judy Garland = Dorothy. I'd love a reboot series of movies that was actually faithful to the books, just to set it straight. And to see significant amounts of Ozma.

Yes! Original Dorothy Gale!

[(Anonymous)]

I'm with you, anon. I can enjoy the movie-style Dorothy as trippy fanfic, but I read all the Oz books as a kid, and she was indeed a bit Shirley Temple-like.

[philstar22]

Mostly agree with this. However, the blonde bob only came in the later books. The illustrations of the first book have her with long red braids. And the girl that Baum based her on had red hair.

It bugs me, though, that the movie is seen as the default. Although less for the version of Dorothy and more because of the "it was all a dream" thing that totally missed the point of the books.

[ceebeegee]

I thought it was long brown braids? Didn't the original Denslow illustrations have her as a brunette? (Though I would love her as a redhead.)

And I loved that bit in--was it The Emerald City of Oz?--the bit that has Dorothy viewing a statue of her earlier illustrated self, complete in the Denslow style--so clever!

[(Anonymous)]

When I was a kid, I had a copy of Wizard by Unicorn Press with gorgeous full color oil painting illustrations; Dorothy was obviously a child, the Lion and Scarecrow looked like an actual lion and scarecrow, and the Emerald City was out of this world stunning. I was so in love with that version, when I saw the movie years later I thought it was so, so lame. Especially the guy in the ratty lion costume with basset hound cheeks...

[(Anonymous)]

The original illustrator of The Wizard of Oz was W. W. Denslow. Dorothy had long brown (red?) pigtails, not a blonde bob.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cb/Cowardly_lion2.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, but John R. Neil illustrated every book in the series afterwards and set the look of the characters so thoroughly that when L. Frank Baum was doing silent film shorts of his own books, he cast Dorothy as a blonde with a bob.

I did always wonder why he didn't go back and illustrate an edition of the first book...