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[ SECRET POST #2797 ]

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I agree like a million times over, but it's not like that's a secret or anything. I don't think it's actually an uncommon opinion these days either - it seems like a lot of people who are either watching it for the first time relatively recently (like me) or revisiting it after not being massive in fandom originally share that view.

It's just a much more interesting, much less common relationship if they're not romantically involved.

I thought this was a predominant opinion. Oh well, I agree with you, OP.

I stand by the fact that I wanted them to get romantic, but not the way the show did it. You don't pay off seven years of UST with a relationship that was never shown (I mean dude, 20 years later we still don't know when they started sleeping together. To say nothing of how incredible the scene where they do decide to get romantic could have been), with a character who wasn't there most of the time.

Having Mulder and Scully suddenly already having been in a relationship was clearly something the writers threw in for the fans to make up for losing Duchovny. And it was not satisfying at all!

Their relationship was shown a little more in the movie, at least

This.

I can definitely get behind this.

Also commenting to say that I used to own the image in the OP as a poster in my bedrooms (home, dorm, and first apartment).

Yes, exactly. I'm a shipper all the way but it wasn't great how they did it.

PREACH.

Agreed. I was on the unpopular no-romo/only in fanfic side back in the day.

if the show had lasted 3 or 4 seasons, i'd agree. but 9? only if they'd stop playing the UST card.

9 seasons is just too long. shit or get off the pot.

I think it went on too long. They had to resolve it one way or another, and Duchovny was sort of leaving, so I think it was fine. In fact a canon I would prefer is to think that they were in a relationship all along, or at least for a lot of it, and it was just offscreen.

Either that or not even have the UST in the first place, but then that probably kept a lot of us watching!

I always prefer that the main pair (ie. JD and Eliot on Scrubs) wait until the series finale to get together. To be fair, it's a really mild pet peeve. I don't mind that much, and I definitely didn't mind with X Files. On a related note, ever since David Duchovny got divorced all the people who shipped him with Gillian are freaking out. Like "now's your chance, get together!"

The fandom focus on their relationship ticks me the fuck off. I get it. They had chemistry. Mulder and Scully were a big deal. But you know what else was a big deal? The X-Files. It was huge. It ushered in a new genre of television, a new era. It was groundbreaking. And in its wake, all anyone can yammer on about is MulderXScully. Sometimes I feel like one of a handful of people who watched it for the paranormal, and the supernatural and the aliens and the conspiracy. I love the two leads, but if the show had stayed spooky I would have watched Doggett and Reyes for seasons beyond nine. With Skinner in tow, of course.

I was a kid when it came out. I was too young to give a damn about sexual tension and will they-won't they. I was scared of the Fluke-man and wanted to know what the smoking man was all about, and what happened to Mulder's sister. I had to unfollow someone on Tumblr because they were watching it for the first time and REFUSED TO FINISH THE SHOW because there wasn't enough Mulder. They kept asking if it was safe to skip to the last two episodes. My god, people. Season nine isn't Shakespeare, but what the hell.

It's the X-Files. Not the Mulder and Scully Variety Hour. >:[

You can be love the paranormal plot shit and the relationship shit.

I'm quite obviously talking about people for which the relationship shit is all that matters? I myself like all facets of the show, but as someone who really came for the show in its entirety not the shipping alone, it is frustrating to be such a minority that there are people skipping episodes because they read there wasn't enough longing glances and implied UST to merit a watch. People who LOVE the second film [which is awful] simply because Mulder and Scully are two steps from married.

But thanks for the input. I had no idea.

Testy.
Yeah, I don't get people who skip episodes like that. Or people who like the second movie.

Testy

Not really.. Sorry for the sarcasm on my part. I just thought that was an unnecessary comment. I at no point said you had to like one or the other in what I was saying, you know? I have a slight preference for the plot over the romance, but I don't outright reject it. I just hate that MulderXScully is all that matters. When fans are discussing the show nowadays [especially new fans] you'd think there was no plot. Or at least, nothing like aliens and ghosts and sewer monsters. Nothing actually seems to happen in any episode accept these two people who really like each other interact. That's it. No one discusses the show any more, and it's sad. There's a lot to talk about.

I just wish it were more balanced. I am sick of hearing about how mad everyone is that they didn't get to kiss in Fight the Future. We know. What did you think of the movie itself, fandom? Did you know.. stuff happened in it? :[

I watched every episode in real time and loved the plots and mytharc, but not gonna lie, the MSR-related stuff was the tasty, tasty sauce on the plate. When I rewatch, more UST and interaction does boost my enjoyment exponentially.

But I feel the OP and think the show did a poor job of realizing the relationship onscreen, and I hated the second movie.

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(Anonymous) - 2014-08-31 19:22 (UTC) - Expand

Noromo 4 life!

I have to say, Mulder and Scully getting together and the show taking a massive nosedive in quality and Mulder leaving must have been a pretty pyrrhic victory for the 'shippers, though.

(Yes, children, this is where the word "ship" comes from.)

You know, I think up until the last few seasons where the writers fully went for it, the show easily could have gone nowhere with them romantically. They're both such dry and closed off people- I don't know where this idea of constant sexual tension comes from. Is it because they are sexy? A sexy man and woman who work together? So much of their interaction is born of intense trust and friendship. The show tells us they love eachother, the fans scream it. But if I were to show the first five seasons or so to a non-fan, someone who has never even heard of the X-Files and said 'Hey, watch this show. The leads are absolutely the best of friends, its really touching'-- I don't think the non-fan would catch wise to this supposed torch they're carrying for one another.

It's the age old bullshit. That any and all affection, any positive regard, or concern, or connection means ROMANCE. You might point at Mulder wearing Scully's necklace after she is abducted. Surely, this means love? But hey. If my best friend, the one person in the world who believed in me [if not what I believed in], if they disappeared? Yeah, I'd be wearing her necklace. Staring wistfully up into the sky and wishing she was back and safe. And it would have zero to do with wanting to bed her, or marry her, or whatever. Scully can sing to Mulder, Mulder can wipe sauce off of her face, they can argue and laugh and call each other late at night and they can both be codependent and utterly transfixed with one another and it doesn't have to mean true love. At least not in that sense.

What I'm getting at is that I don't think their romantic feelings were so overt that it NEEDED a romantic resolution. The fandom wanted them together [the term shipping was born from the X-Files fandom after all] and the show delivered. But this idea that they were dragging out taut and tight UST and unresolved feelings over episode after episode after season after season? Chris Carter said they wouldn't get together, and that's really how the show was written up to a point.

+1000000000 to all of this.

So much this. I get people who want to ship them because of chemistry, but the "logical proofs" about how they "need" to be romantic are all so bogus. Maybe because romantic love really doesn't rest on logical proofs where if X happens, then romance ensues.

You're crazy. The last couple of seasons were terrible. And MSR for life, man.

They were terrible in comparison to the rest of the show, but later seasons TXF was actually.. pretty solid when you pit it against today's long running shows. SPN has been wheezing along in X-Files Season 9 mode for like.. six seasons now, with no sign of slowing down.

If only every show went out as strong and as gracefully as the X-Files. And that's something I never thought I'd type.

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