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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2007-12-10 05:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #339 ]


⌈ Secret Post #339 ⌋

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Re: 21

[identity profile] ronsard.livejournal.com 2007-12-10 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't want to talk about "emo" because the word admittedly has no meaning in this context, but preferring characters who choose to deal with their problems in a positive way seems fairly legitimate to me.

Re: 21

[identity profile] annwyd.livejournal.com 2007-12-10 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
It's one thing to simply prefer characters like that. I don't take issue with that, but...when people start going on about how "emo boys" suck for struggling to deal with their problems (usually in a manner that's pretty damned realistic), and how characters who react to their troubles by becoming nice and pleasant and etc etc etc are so much better...that bugs the hell out of me. :/

Re: 21

[identity profile] ronsard.livejournal.com 2007-12-10 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
That's just what I'm saying though. If you take away all the labeling and badmouthing, what they're essentially saying is that they like character A better than character B because A deals with his issues more effectively than B does -- which kind of implies that the person thinks A is better than B for possessing that quality, and finds it annoying when others make excuses for B. It's not something you agree with, I can see, but I think it's a reasonable way of thinking. Bundles of dysfuctions don't do it for everyone.
Edited 2007-12-10 23:19 (UTC)

Re: 21

[identity profile] annwyd.livejournal.com 2007-12-10 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
...well, yeah, if you take away all the labeling and badmouthing, sure. If the secret had been, "Everyone seems to like these messed-up, dysfunctional characters, but I really like this guy and how much better he handled his issues, and I wish I had more people to share that with," I'd have gone "meh" and ignored it.

But the fact is that the labeling and badmouthing is there, and it typifies an attitude towards both characters and people that I find unsympathetic and shallow.

Edit: Also, it didn't help that both of the characters listed as examples of "emo boys that aren't as cool as my favorite character" have some of the best and most realistic development in popular fandom today, regardless of how annoying their attitudes and actions can be, so dismissing them that way made me roll my eyes particularly hard.
Edited 2007-12-10 23:25 (UTC)

Re: 21

[identity profile] ronsard.livejournal.com 2007-12-10 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Uh, I was going add a tag-on to that previous reply that the OP's tone, while not the most respectful, doesn't necessarily seem like badmouthing in the strictest sense. Emo is used nebulously these days, more like an expression of annoyance in most cases. That's just how I read it.

That's... a matter of interpretation, but I won't go into it. And even if a person doesn't debunk a character's growth throughout the series, it's still entirely possible for them to prefer (again, prefer) someone who started off on the right foot to begin with.