[ SECRET POST #2799 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2799 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Just to note that I put the word "unequivocally" in the secret exactly because I think the games you mention in your last paragraph DO have artistic merit. But, for me, there are caveats for them in a way that there isn't for Spec Ops: The Line. A lot of these types of games might have, for example, fan service which (to me) isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it's not really artistic either.

Spec Ops is really the first game I've played where it seems like absolutely everything comes together to improve the artistry.

Even games like Metal Gear tend to have some more fanservice-y aspects although that doesn't prevent them from being art. Just…it wouldn't be quite so unequivocal in that case.

[(Anonymous)]

Why isn't fanservice artistic?

[(Anonymous)]

According to my definition (which will vary from person to person, but I'm using mine), fan service isn't artistic because it's not done to help bolster the themes or messages of the work. Showing half-naked ladies for the eye candy isn't necessarily bad, but they don't do anything to promote the central idea.

Now, Spec Ops does show pictures of strippers on the walls of mall, for instance. However, there is artistic merit to these, I would argue, because pigs' heads have been graffitied over the women's heads. And given that there's an undercurrent of commentary about the toxic capitalism and class divide of Dubai, I'd say there's merit to them.

But having eye candy just for eye candy? In my opinion, that's not artistic. Not wrong, just not artistic (to me).