[ SECRET POST #2799 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2799 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I think Xander is also wary of Angel because he's a vampire, he's shrouded in secrecy, and he has trust issues.

IDK, he didn't seem to have any problems dating Anya, and unlike Angel, she didn't show a shred of repentance for the things she did as a vengeance demon.

[lunabee34]

But I think this is also part of the whole things that happen to you are different than when they happen to other people. It's a long arc, but the narrative calls him on that, too--on what happens when you choose to fall in love with or ally yourself with someone who has done terrible things.

[(Anonymous)]

How does the narrative call him on it? Yes, The Lie was brought up again, six seasons after it was told, and it went unfinished and unacknowledged. And through the whole scene where he was arguing with Buffy not to kill Anya, not once did he acknowledge the utter and total irony of switching positions with Buffy. Not once did he apologize and recognize the position she was in, the position he was going through himself. That's not the narrative calling him on it, that's just the show acknowledging that they trolled the message boards.

[lunabee34]

Sorry; I missed this comment somehow.

The narrative calling him on it doesn't mean that he has to acknowledge that what he did was wrong and apologize for it; it means the other characters in the show and we as viewers see that he's behaving hypocritically and asking Buffy to do for Anya what he wasn't willing to do for Angel. From the point of view of the show, Xander is wrong even if he himself doesn't verbally acknowledge that. IDK, that was a really powerful moment for me in the show but clearly YMMV.

[(Anonymous)]

I think people forget that Xander doesn't just hate Angel for dating Buffy, but he hates him because he's a vampire. In the very first episode of the show, his best friend in the world is turned into a vampire, and then has to be dusted. After that he's had a much bigger problem with vampires than the rest of the group, and you can't blame him too much for that. Doesn't mean he hasn't been an asshole about it, but it's not all about wanting to sleep with Buffy, and it explains why he's more okay with Anya's past as a demon than Angel being a vampire.