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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2007-12-11 01:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #340 ]


⌈ Secret Post #340 ⌋

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Notes:

Posting for Shahni! And early because I've got pseuicide class.

Secrets Left to Post: 06 pages, 150 secrets from Secret Submission Post #049.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 3 4 ] broken links, [ 1 2] not!secrets, 0 not!fandom.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Wednesday, December 12th, 2007.
Current Secret Submission Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: 27

[identity profile] marsdragon.livejournal.com 2007-12-11 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Really? What I've mostly seen is 'that's some pretty strong language for something relatively minor', 'is it that hard to skip?', and 'dude, given Sturgeon's Law, it's not like we're any better off'. None of those are particularly throat-jumping (anymore so than usual for the internet anyway).

And you know? As someone from a fandom so small in America that I have to translate fic from Japanese, cry moar. Seriously. I try not to begrudge Kingdom Hearts and Doctor Who and anything else popular, even though if I go anywhere where fandoms mix those have generally eaten everything alive. My fandoms tend to be so tiny I'm lucky if there's a fandom past me, my friends that I got into it, and a bunch of fanboys on 4chan (who hate anything smacking of fangirl with a passion, so it's not like I don't understand not fitting in), but I don't bitch about it to a bunch of people who don't care and wouldn't be in my fandoms anyway.

Seriously, what do you want the yaoi lovers to do about it? Write what you want instead of what they want because you're special? I like yaoi but I mostly end up writing gen, and even so that attitude pisses me off. If you think yaoi's "eaten the fandom alive", then write some gen/het/yuri/whatever, try to find some friends that like it, and form your own community. Just whining about it on F!S isn't going to get you any more of what you want to see.

This is probably going to come off as me telling you you've committed some "horrible sin", and it's not really intended like that. I do find the attitude "you should write what I want, not what you want!" annoying, but it's not a sin. (Even with my big words up there, I have privately lamented the lack of ...anything, really, in my fandoms before) If I'm coming down on you for anything, it's for that attitude, not for not liking yaoi, because I really couldn't care less what you like. I hope that's clear. (what is probably more clear is that I talk too much)

Re: 27 (OP)

(Anonymous) 2007-12-12 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
But I don't want anything. Mostly my reason for making this secret was frustration. And now I've said something, I can and will get on with skipping all those yaoi fics and trying to find something I want to read, mildly happier in the knowledge that at least I got to admit that yes, I dislike yaoi in a fairly public place.

:)

Re: 27 (OP)

[identity profile] marsdragon.livejournal.com 2007-12-12 05:35 am (UTC)(link)
Usually when I complain about something (There aren't any fanfics for my fandom in English and moonspeak is hard!) I want conditions to change so my complaint is no longer valid (There are fics in English/I understand Japanese perfectly with no effort!). But that's me.

Re: 27 (OP)

(Anonymous) 2007-12-12 02:25 pm (UTC)(link)
But things aren't going to change, no matter what I do. I can't make myself learn to like yaoi, and yes, I could write my own, but that wouldn't change the vast majority of fandom apparently being yaoi. And I cannot really write, so the amount of good het/gen fic wouldn't change at all.

Re: 27 (OP)

[identity profile] marsdragon.livejournal.com 2007-12-12 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
The amount of fic-writing English-speaking SRW fans isn't going to suddenly change either, and I'm not going to wake up one morning with spontaneous fluent knowledge of Japanese (I wish).

I can understand the acceptance, it's just when you said that you didn't want the situation to change, it felt odd. And I wouldn't worry about being bad at writing, for two points:

1. You get better with practice, assuming you're willing to learn. I look back on everything I ever wrote and cringe, but the early mistakes help me learn to write better (assuming I ever stop being lazy and actually write some more). Reading helps too.

2. Since when has sucking stopped someone from being popular? Even if it's bad, you might attract some similarly minded people, and from there you can found your own little community of people who like het/gen. It's not hopeless.