[ SECRET POST #340 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #340 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Posting for Shahni! And early because I've got pseuicide class.

Secrets Left to Post: 06 pages, 150 secrets from Secret Submission Post #049.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 3 4 ] broken links, [ 1 2] not!secrets, 0 not!fandom.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Wednesday, December 12th, 2007.
Current Secret Submission Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: 27 (OP)

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, the comms exist. Yes, I love them. When people actually post in them.

Re: 27 (OP)

[(Anonymous)]

When people actually post in them.

because they are too busy posting in the yaoi comms?

Re: 27 (OP)

[(Anonymous)]

Please do not put words in my mouth. All that comment meant was that I love comms, but they are not much good if they are not really posted in. Because when they are rarely posted in, they are not much help in finding the gen and het fic I am looking for. And I still have to go and look for my own het/gen.

Therefore, my comment. Comms are awesome when people post in them.

[fyretoppaaa.livejournal.com]

True. This is also true for even slash couples, when the couple is obscure/crack. So I guess what I'm trying to say is that it doesn't make sense to resent yaoi when... some of us are in the same boat. ):

If anything, resenting the popular pairings might work. Unless you always ship those.

Note that I'm not attacking your opinion, just explaining why I don't understand it.

[(Anonymous)]

It didn't come off as an attack. :)

I think the point I failed to make was that I don't resent yaoi shippers. I just resent that there's so much yaoi and so little gen/het. Writers will write what they want, readers will read what they want, but I really wish I was not in what seems like a very small minority.

As to popular pairings, in a lot of my fandoms those are slash. So that doesn't really help much.

Maybe I just need to quit shonen fandoms, I suppose.

[fyretoppaaa.livejournal.com]

I can totally understand that. Frankly, sometimes I end up resenting the popular yaoi pairings because... that's all people write. And they don't do it particularly well, either. :// I love popular pairings sometimes, too... but more often than not I'm pretty much alone in my corner with my crack!pairings; it's rather discouraging. ):

So I understand your frustration, and the need to vent; perhaps it comes down to the wording of your secret, which a lot of people seem to find unnecessarily inflammatory.

Haha. I guess that's the thing I LIKE about shonen fandoms; the rampant slashy subtext. XDXDXD Shoujo more often than not bores me to tears. >>;;;

[(Anonymous)]

I admit, I don't always get my viewpoint across very clearly, and that isn't helped by the space and other constraints of making a secret. Particularly when I suck at graphic design, too.

That's partly why I'm not writing much fic. If I can't get my own viewpoint across, how am I meant to be able to get the characters viewpoints across? :( I don't want to be another member of the slushpile for the rest of fandom to wade through looking for the goodfic.

I love shonen canons for the friendships and the fighting, so that's what I want to find fic for. And I would kill for a fic that can combine them and be an awesome rivalry fic, most preferably without fluff.

Re: 27 (OP)

[(Anonymous)]

And you really think if fandom forced fans to stop writing yaoi entirely they'd suddenly decide to write het/gen?

Umm... no.

Forcing yaoi fans out of fandom would simply make pretty much every fandom comm like the het/gen comm. Dead.

Promote the het and gen comms better, hold contests or something to get fans using them. If you don't write yourself, make recommendations posts so that other fans can see that the comm is active, which would in turn will make them want to join and participate too.

In short: Do the things that fans of unpopular yaoi pairings have to do to get their OTP noticed.