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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-09-07 04:06 pm

[ SECRET POST #2805 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2805 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-09-07 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
If you take off the Young, you could easily be talking about what Brian Michael Bendis did to the overall Avengers.
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(Anonymous) 2014-09-07 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

Don't think Bendis has ever made the fandom toxic, but he does have a tendency to ignore continuity, particularly old continuity, to write the story/characters the way he wants to; see Avengers Disassembled and the Scarlet Witch. Also his run on Guardians of the Galaxy did change a lot of Star-Lords personality as well, but that obviously isn't Avengers.
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nayrt

(Anonymous) 2014-09-07 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. Any competent writer can do it. And it's a degree of change thing. It's one thing to say "Oh X and Y fought Z together once" and another entirely to throw out a character's entire personality and backstory just so they'll be more like a movie version or more appealing to the toxicity that is tumblr.
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(Anonymous) 2014-09-07 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Star-Lord's an example.
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(Anonymous) 2014-09-07 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
First NAYRT

Well around the time of Annihilation and up to the Thanos Imperative (where SPOILERS: Star Lord and Richard Rider died) Star Lord/Peter Quill was kinda a straight cop who had seen some shit through Annihilation and had some/something resembling PTSD. When Bendis started writing for Guardians, he turned into one of Bendis's snarky/quip characters, and while that isn't inherently bad, it's not in line with the way he was written for the 2008-2010 Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning Guardians of the Galaxy run. Just as a note, the Star Lord from the movie is more based on the 2008-2010 run, since James Gunn told Chris Pratt not to read Bendis's run.

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(Anonymous) 2014-09-08 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
And yet, Quill is a snarky/quippy character in the GOTG movie.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-07 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
You liked Morrisson's run on New X-Men??? And I used to think you had good taste...
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(Anonymous) 2014-09-07 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
nayrt

I hate Morrison because of what he did to X-men. You actually perfectly summed up what I can't stand about his run. Emma was awesome, I'll give you that. But Xavier?! And Scott?! Okay, I've always hated Scott - and I began to read X-men in the 90s -, but his Scott was probably the worst. And let's not forget Xorn. And Quentin. God, I hated this little shit - and I used to have a "Magneto was right" shirt as a teenager.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-07 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, and I really hated the whole Cassandra Nova thing.
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(Anonymous) 2014-09-07 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Cyclops is ..... Cyclops. I've always felt bad for Scott fans. nobody seems to like him, and he gets so much shit. I can't even tell a good writer from a bad writer with him.

I'm one of those lonely Scott fans, lol. Some of the shit he gets in-universe kind of bugs me (sure, when other heroes are under the influence of mind control or a cosmic entity and end up killing someone, people get over it. But when Scott does it, boy, no one's ever going to let him live that shit down. DAMMIT WOLVERINE, YOU HAVE NO ROOM TO TALK), but I will freely admit that he's just not written well 98% of the time.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-07 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
sa

Oops, I mean "nayrt" instead of "ayrt"
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[personal profile] doilycoffin 2014-09-07 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
DAMMIT WOLVERINE, YOU HAVE NO ROOM TO TALK

That's what bugs me the most about it. Like, I could forgive some of the other characters for acting the way they do about it, but Wolverine? Wolverine is getting all self-righteous? Dude, remember Northstar? The guy you're on a team with who you straight up murdered back in the day when you were brainwashed? Fuuuuuck you.

[personal profile] firstmoonie 2014-09-07 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't read Bendis but he sounds a lot like Geoff Johns/Greg Weisman to me.