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(frozen comment) Re: What are your thoughts on abortion?

[(Anonymous)]

For nine months, however, she has to serve it, and go through considerable pain, money and inconvenience to do so.

Especially in the last few weeks/months, depending on how the pregnancy goes, you literally have to plan your life around the pregnancy. You have to stop working, it literally changes you (mood swings, intolerance to certain foods or smells, cravings, a thing you don't want literally growing inside you and feeding off of you), the pain and nausea, the list goes on. From a certain stand-point, a woman is basically held prisoner by the baby, forced to do things she wouldn't do if it weren't for the baby. Why is that alright?

And if you say that everyone has a right to live, what about condoms? What about the life that could have been had that one sperm not been caught in the condom, but reached the egg? Are you against the morning after pill as well, or doesn't that matter as the baby is still only a handful of cells at that point?

(Please note, though I am pro-choice I can't imagine me ever getting an abortion. I'm not attacking you, I'm genuinely curious.)

(frozen comment) Re: What are your thoughts on abortion?

[iceyred]

I have no beef with condoms and contraceptives. I use them myself with great success. As far as I'm concerned stopping something from happening isn't the same as ending a life. A life that could be is a hypothetical. A life that is, well, that's a fact.

Nine months out of the sixty plus years most of us can expect to live is not that big of a deal. We all do plenty of things we don't want to do every single day. Saying 'Oh, I don't want to do something' doesn't make any difference when there's someone's life on the line.

(frozen comment) Re: What are your thoughts on abortion?

[(Anonymous)]

But with the morning after pill something could, in theory, already have happened. I mean, you can't know for sure but the whole point of the MAP is to get rid of a fertilized egg.

I suppose the big difference here is when (general) you think the life starts. Just as I don't think the couple of formed cells the morning after constitute a life I don't think a fetus of a couple of weeks constitues a life either, though that view may be largely influenced by the fact that miscarriage are very common on my father's sister-in-law's side of the family.

Yet if it wasn't a baby, but another adult taking the woman hostage for nine months and forcing her to do things against her will she would be allowed to defend herself. It's not saying "I don't want to do something", it's not having a choice - a pregnancy changes a woman, whether she wants it or not. When my body deforms and I can't do things like my own job anymore that has nothing to do with what I want or not, because these things are entirely outside of my control.

(frozen comment) Re: What are your thoughts on abortion?

[iceyred]

An adult taking a woman hostage has a choice regarding their behavior. Contraception is a choice. Adoption is a choice. A baby has no choice. It is completely powerless and at the mercy of forces bigger and stronger than itself.

I'm willing to accept that a couple of cells joined together are not a human being. I'm not willing to accept that someone with a heartbeat is not.

(frozen comment) Re: What are your thoughts on abortion?

[(Anonymous)]

The heart doesn't start to beat until 6 weeks after conception. Are you okay with abortions before that point?

(frozen comment) Re: What are your thoughts on abortion?

[iceyred]

I said heart beat as an example. I could easily have said the beginning of brain development, spinal cord, etc. Which start around week three.


http://americanpregnancy.org/duringpregnancy/fetaldevelopment1.htm