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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-09-07 04:06 pm

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(frozen comment) Re: What are your thoughts on abortion?

(Anonymous) 2014-09-07 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
OK, well, you asked. I was going to post this off anon; but I hope you'll understand why I don't.

My viewpoint has developed over a long period of time, and may develop further.

I was a Teen for Life or some such nonsense a long time ago. For a lot of reasons, I am completely hostile to the various pro-life organizations now. (A lot of this is due to me being in the USA, and seeing them work to prevent socialized medicine, and actually equating medical care to murder because of abortion a few years ago. Some of the hardest hardcore "pro-life" activists are really anti-birth-control or even anti-medicine.)

Philosophically, I'm a Green, and a bit Malthusian. I don't believe that high birth rates and high populations are necessarily good, let alone an unmixed good. It may be better to have fewer children that live richer and healthier lives. And large/growing human populations tend toward plague, warfare, endemic violent crime, loss of civil rights, famine, and (at sufficient size) ecological collapse. So when it comes to the hardline right-to-life position, I deny their major premise.

I was born out of wedlock. Short version: my father wanted to marry my mother and thought getting her pregnant was a way to make that happen; she didn't want to marry him, didn't tell him she was pregnant, and went off to the unwed mothers' home to bear me and give me up; then she decided to raise me anyway. She never married.

When I was strongly anti-abortion, it was partly due to the sense that abortion was a way of killing "undesirables" like me. I was a "shameful" bastard being raised by an eccentric woman. And later, I was being badly raised by a mentally ill single parent suffering from crippling depression.

Now I tend more to disagree with those who act like having a baby is necessarily wonderful. I was a pretty gloomy kid, and I used to wish I had never been born; but at least I was healthy. Imagine a single mother with a severely disabled child, or a poor family with one parent chronically ill and four children already. Sometimes abortion is a reasonable alternative, even though it's not ideal--because we aren't always living with ideal alternatives.

In ancient times, families sometimes practiced "exposure"--abandoning babies to the elements. Tanakh/the Old Testament describes women doing worse than that to their children--and describes it in somewhat sympathetic terms, due to horrible circumstances. Sometimes a human being dies because of an internal medical reason, but sometimes a human being dies because of external, environmental reasons. Sometimes you sacrifice a life to save another--even a human, even an innocent. It's not about thinking a human life is worthless, it's about understanding that there are other things more powerful and worth more than this baby's life. Real morality understands that.

Too much pro-life rhetoric is based on simplistic morality that wants to make an absolute out of this one life, when no one mortal life is an absolute.

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(Anonymous) 2014-09-08 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
I should be clear, because that post somehow became about my own story and abortion for birth control.

If there is a medical reason, certainly I am for abortion. Life of the mother, health of the mother, fetal deformity, whatever. There are a dozen ways pregnancy can go horrifyingly wrong, let's not forget that.

Now, abortion purely for birth control? Yeah, I can see why people are offended by that. But yeah, there are also worse things.