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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-09-09 06:58 pm

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(Anonymous) 2014-09-09 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Most anti-sjws I follow are actual minorities though? And I never seem them acting like bigots. I am sure there are, but anti-sjw bigots < sjw bigots
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[personal profile] morieris 2014-09-09 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you sure they're not...what is the term here...'Catfishing'? I see it a lot with Anti SJW blogs who front as minorities.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-09 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Well sure they might be. for all I know you are a cat that has gained sentience and the ability to type. But considering they don't say anything racist/sexist/other ist, they are not being bigots in the first place.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2014-09-09 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't believe how many people fall for those fake SJ posts. Well, I can but it makes me sad to think that this is what so many people think that SJ discourse is all about.
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[personal profile] morieris 2014-09-09 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I think they just want any reason to justify being against Social Justice.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-10 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
I'm a lesbian, about to be married to a woman. I'll send you wedding pictures eventually, if you'd like.

I hate most SJWs because they speak OVER people like me.

To me, there's a difference between activism and SJism. The former is positive--it considers what actually affects minorities and listens to them. The latter is what you get when straight white people try to champion a cause and refuse to listen to people who are minorities, thus making the activists look bad.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2014-09-10 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
I hate that too but it gets complicated when people assume that people aren't in the group they're talking about when they really are. I'm so sick of people refusing to believe that someone in the same group as them could possibly disagree with them. I don't know that you do that, but it happens a lot and it's so frustrating because the same people who complain about being talked over end up erasing others like them.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-10 05:47 am (UTC)(link)
I hate members of the groups in question talking "for the group" so much. It takes a few heaping servings of arrogance to assume that one's own single, lived experience makes one an expert for all others involved. How about everyone in this discourse just learns to listen to experiences as a valuable input without anyone involved generalising them across the whole group?

Like, my experience with racism are super different from those of my own brother - how on earth could I presume to speak for any and all members of ethnic minorities in my city, never mind my country?

(Anonymous) 2014-09-10 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
For some of them, sure, but people like, say, but for people like vladimirnootin, say, and the amount of selfies she takes/knowledge of middle eastern culture/language, I'd be hesitant to assume they were catfishing.
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[personal profile] evewithanapple 2014-09-10 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Being a minority in one area doesn't preclude them being a bigot in another, though. You can be gay and still racist, or disabled and sexist.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-10 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
+1

(Anonymous) 2014-09-10 07:03 am (UTC)(link)
THIS, thank you. Everyone is capable of being a bigoted asshole.
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[personal profile] dazzledfirestar 2014-09-10 12:27 pm (UTC)(link)
It amazes me how often that fact escapes people.
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[personal profile] arcadiaego 2014-09-10 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
You probably have common sense and taste. It's quite easy to avoid the kids who just googled 'intersectional'. (It's great that there are kids that even do that but I'm getting a bit old for caps lock. *waves cane*)