[ SECRET POST #2810 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2810 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Star Trek: The Original Series]


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[Free Eternal Summer]


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[Orphan Black]


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[Patch Adams/Dead Poets Society/What Dreams May Come]













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Comments

[philstar22]

War should be the last option, sure. And I hate that the world doesn't do enough about things that happen today (and frankly how especially the US makes things worse). We do have structures today like the UN that should be dealing with those things (though they don't) that weren't around at the time.

Maybe the US got Keeler's point of view completely wrong in what it ultimately ended up believing and that she would have been totally for getting involved in WWII once she knew what Hitler (and Japan for that matter) was doing. But we don't get that from the episode.

[(Anonymous)]

There was the League of Nations during Edith's time though.

I think the episode DOES make the point that Edith's view is naive, in some senses, but that's because her awareness of the situation is naive too. If the episode supported her position, I think your criticism of her would be more fair.

[philstar22]

I do feel like the episode holds her up as an ideal, though. It tries to have it both ways. On the one hand we see all the bad consequences, but at the same time she's portrayed as this amazing, nearly perfect person and we do get the sense that we're supposed to admire her.

[(Anonymous)]

The episode emphasizes her views for the tragedy of her death is more what I'd say. She is TOO idealistic. That's why she had to die -- because she was naive about the true scope of the situation (like a lot of Americans were, though, in fairness) -- and her desire to save lives and keep out of conflict would have eventually done more harm then good.

That she's portrayed as nearly perfect is twofold:
1. We see her largely from Kirk's perspective (who is in love with her)
2. It emphasizes that her view is something to strive for but that we must sometimes compromise on and that, even if it's the right thing to do, there's going to be a price to pay

OP

[(Anonymous)]

In addition, please consider the context of her speech. She made it in a time and in an era when millions in the United States - in the world, even - had lost all hope for a better future and saw only misery and poverty stretching on for years to come.

That was the Great Depression of the 1930s.

For her to have that sense of determined optimism about the ability of humanity to transcend itself in that era is pretty damned awesome, in my view.

[(Anonymous)]

The episode was written by Harlan Ellison, who is Jewish and definitely has strong ideas about the Holocaust and the need to end it.

I think the point of Edith Keeler is the tragedy that pacifism doesn't end the likes of Hitler. That war was a brutal necessity, when the ideal would have been so much better had it worked.