[ SECRET POST #2812 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2812 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, you hate Moffat because he isn't filming your fanfiction which is totally socially just in every way. Now fuck off.

[(Anonymous)]

Why HELLO, Mr. Moffat! :D

[dreemyweird]

Way to be rude, anon. IDK anything about the SJ side of it, but most of Moffat's storylines make zero sense and are hence impossible to follow.

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe it's just you? I don't have a problem following his stories.

[dreemyweird]

It may partly be my problem, mostly 'cause I'm very sensitive to continuity issues and my brain quickly goes abort at anything that seems illogical.

But I'm also not a Whovian - maybe Moffat's writing on Who makes more sense than his other projects do?

[(Anonymous)]

It does not.

Every single one of the new episodes has been illogical to the point of distraction. I'm also very timeline and logic-conscious, but even if you're not, this series episodes are just very bad. I have seen children's shows on CBBC with better plotlines.

The premises are horrible. Into the Dalek was particularly bad.

A rebel group captures a Dalek... and it's a bit of a weird one, but in order to 'repair' the Dalek, they have to be shrunk and put inside it. Through the eye stalk. For some horrible Fantastic In-Body Journey style rubbish.

Never mind that it's been established for LONGER THAN I HAVE BEEN ALIVE that you can reach the squirmy kaled inside the Dalek's armour by OPENING THE CASING. It's not as if this is a Classic Who thing, it's happened during the revival multiple times.

That the premise for that episode STARTS with something totally unnecessary and just pointlessly runs with it... ARGH.

So no, it does not make sense. And before anybody says it, it being a silly science fiction series does not excuse the lack of sense-making.

[(Anonymous)]

Anon you've kind of hit on why I have issues with Moffat's writing. It rarely makes sense or falls into line of "what makes sense" in terms of Who. And it's not just that he doesn't follow classic Who, he can't even keep the rules straight from new Who and not just RTD's rules but HIS OWN RULES (see: the weeping angels and their completely random canon.)

I am fine with silly science fiction (science is not my major anyway so you could probably get away with a lot with me) but I still think there needs to be rules as to how a certain world works. Moffat tends to rely way to heavily on thinking the audience either a. doesn't get it b. doesn't care or c. won't remember it. But then I've also read interviews where he openly admits he doesn't do his research.

I really think he's the type of writer who needs an editor to come in and tell him what works and what doesn't. Being a showrunner has not helped his writing skills at all.

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed!! Maybe I'm just losing my suspension of disbelief but almost every episode this season has had major internal logic problems that are just hand-waved away like:

'What if X is a Y? Ha! we had you going there, actually X is Z!'

'But what about when A, B and C happened? Aren't they things that would only happen if X was a Y?'

'No idea what you're talking about...oooh look over there!' *vanishes*

[(Anonymous)]

Oh noes someone dislikes your woobie better throw a tantrum over it.

[(Anonymous)]

Speaking just for myself, that's not my objection at all. My problem is that Moffat IS, in fact, filming HIS fanfiction. His vision of the Doctor is that of a 15-year-old fanboy/fangirl, and there's a reason we don't generally let those people near canon.

ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

Actually, I dislike Moffat's current stuff, because while he is excellent as atmospheric one-offs or two parters, he could not write himself out of a paper bag when it comes to over-arcing storylines and he has a serious weakness related to writing believable character development for the long-haul (and I'm talking about the Doctor, not the shit he's done to his rubbish companions).

My favourite episodes for 9 and 10 were all Moffat ones (barring The Girl in the Fireplace, which was unforgivably shit) and I have absolutely ZERO interest in the Doctor Who fandom, or fanfiction, or any of the SJW bullshit that follows Moffat around.

Thanks for just assuming that, because somebody doesn't appreciate your Almighty Overlord butchering one of their favourite shows over the span of a few series, it's got to be social justice or fandom related, though.

Moron.

Re: ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

The problem with this line of argument is that he hasn't butchered the show, he's written some story arcs that didn't quite come off. Like, there's a gap between the magnitude of your criticism and that weight you're putting on it.