[ SECRET POST #2812 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2812 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Factual Errors in Otherwise Great Fics...

[(Anonymous)]

Not only are you nitpicking, but you're only half right. The aorta passes through the diaphragm into the abdomen, where it's known as the abdominal aorta.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdominal_aorta#mediaviewer/File:Gray531.png

Now, rupture of the abdominal aorta has a 90 percent fatality rate, but 90 percent =/= 100 percent, so to borrow your phrase, YOU MOSTLY DEAD SON.

Re: Factual Errors in Otherwise Great Fics...

[(Anonymous)]

Ahhh…

That's a good point. I just couldn't fathom that this writer actually meant the aorta (the blood vessel stemming from the heart) getting hit.

And then it subsequently getting plugged by Steve's finger while Bruce works to fix it.

But you're right. It isn't technically a factual error. Makes me feel better about the fic, but quite a bit stupider myself.

Re: Factual Errors in Otherwise Great Fics...

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, you don't survive a rupture of the thoracic aorta!

Re: Factual Errors in Otherwise Great Fics...

[dreemyweird]

Tbh this depends on the context. If the writer is describing the situation from the viewpoint of someone with medical knowledge (or in third-person omniscient narration), yours is a fair point. But if they just randomly mention the damaged aorta of someone who was shot in the abdomen or have a character with little to no medical knowledge do that, they're likely making a mistake.

Re: Factual Errors in Otherwise Great Fics...

[(Anonymous)]

I can't even parse this, tbqh. Mentioning the abdominal aorta is wrong because some people don't know that there is one? The author is supposed to think of the people who might try to spork it?

Re: Factual Errors in Otherwise Great Fics...

[dreemyweird]

Um... no?

I meant that there's a chance that the writer did mean the upper part of the aorta (i.e. the part that's commonly called that) but was lucky in that the abdominal aorta is, in fact, a thing. If the scene is described from the PoV of someone who's not supposed to know anything about the abdominal aorta, it indicates that the author is either making a stylistic mistake or an anatomical one.

Re: Factual Errors in Otherwise Great Fics...

[(Anonymous)]

How do you determine whether a character is "supposed" to know anything about the abdominal aorta or not?

Re: Factual Errors in Otherwise Great Fics...

[dreemyweird]

>character with no medical training who didn't manifest any great knowledge of anatomy/physiology before randomly knows this one specific organ really well
>no explanation follows

^^in 90% of all the cases, this is clumsy writing.

Re: Factual Errors in Otherwise Great Fics...

[(Anonymous)]

You're really dedicated to the idea that this was a mistake on the writer's part, aren't you? It doesn't seem possible to you that characters who fight a lot and routinely take a lot of damage would know some basic anatomy? (And the existence of an abdominal aorta is pretty basic.)

Re: Factual Errors in Otherwise Great Fics...

[dreemyweird]

I'm not actually dedicated to it at all, I'm just proving that it's possible. My original comment was basically an "it might be the case" assertion, but you seemed really insistent that it could never be.

Re: Factual Errors in Otherwise Great Fics...

[solticisekf]

It didn't come across like that to me at all. =/

Re: Factual Errors in Otherwise Great Fics...

[(Anonymous)]

Wouldn't the inferior vena cava getting hit make a "little" more sense though? Considering the blood pressure isn't nearly as high?

Whatever…I'm just hung up on this because the fic is really good otherwise.

Re: Factual Errors in Otherwise Great Fics...

[(Anonymous)]

I definitely agree that "nicked the abdominal aorta" = "probably dead before they can get to the hospital." Apparently, some kinds of rupture can temporarily self-seal (I'm working off the prognosis for a ruptured aneurism here). Sounds like copious amounts of handwavium may be involved.