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[Ace Attorney: The Adventures of Ryunosuke Naruhodou]

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[Guardians of the Galaxy]

I guess it was because of his voice.

Groot's not a plant, he's a plant-like alien. Specifically, he's a Flora Colossi. Given that they're not actually plants, there's no reason for them to act as earth plants.

Plus, some plants are actually split into "male" and "female", such as Ginko, not all plants are hermaphroditic.

Sorry, Ginkgo. Seriously, look up dioecious plants.

When I think plants that are split into male/female, I think cannabis.

I didn't know that. Today I learned something new.

^^not sarcasm

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kaijinscendre - 2014-09-15 23:44 (UTC) - Expand

Me too.

Gender has nothing to do with genitals, shitlord. Check your privilege.

That's starlord, dammit. STARLORD.

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In humans. An alien species might not have trans* individuals (or at least not trans* individuals that correspond to human trans* individuals).

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Plants are sexist because in plant species with sexes, the female is the more valuable one.

Well, to the plants both are valuable. It's only to city planners and farmers that it makes a difference. If humans were a farmed species we'd be 99% female like cows and sheep and the young males would be eaten.

Well, "it" has a negative connotation in English. That something is a thing rather than a person. Groot has a male voice actor, so I guess if you have to pick...

In this sense, I kind of get the 'zir/zis/zey' (is that right?) thing. Be generic without being offensive. It's just ridiculous sounding.

Yeah, there's really no gender-neutral way of referring to someone in English that isn't making a big deal of the matter. "It" has too much of a derogatory implication to work, and regular use of singular "they" or any of the constructed neutral pronoun sets demands a lot of consistent attention on the part of your average speaker, which means it's not going to be casual or natural for either the speaker or the listeners without a lot of practice.

For an alien who presumably doesn't have the same feelings about gender that we do anyway, I feel like just picking "he" or "she" for the sake of convenience is the way to go if you're not looking to make the audience think about the gender issue every time someone refers to the character.

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Didn't the creators of the comic say he was male? Also, some plants are divided by sex.

Well, some plant species and trees do actually have male and female versions. Like willows for example. And if you bring in the aspect of sentience, well, who knows how someone would identify. Or how a species does. It's sort of like the Asari are seen as female, but that isn't entirely factually correct.

There probably is a story behind it, but it's a story the makers didn't necessarily feel like telling.

I can understand who you'd prefer it to be left ambiguous, but there really isn't any reason why a sentient tree couldn't be a "he".

Especially when you consider that he's a long-existing character who has always been male.

He's an alien, not a plant, as people have said.

Though truthfully, there's no reason (all) aliens should be classified along the male/female spectrum at all, let alone m/f exclusively. Seems to me that if the earthly species' (flora, fauna, human) are more varied in gender, non-earth species should be as well, perhaps even more so (as they may or may not have the homo sapiens sapiens freak-out over gender).

But I agree that it shouldn't be necessary to give Groot a gender at all & that it shouldn't matter what gender a fictional tree-like alien is.

Of course, it also shouldn't matter to people what gender you or I identify as either, but it does, sooooo. . .

As others have said, Groot is a plant-like alien, not a plant. Also he's a king from Planet X, so yeah.

On top of everything else that's already been said, all we know about Groot is what Rocket tells us. And Rocket strikes me as the type not to care that your species doesn't have a male/female divide; you look like a him so I'm calling you him.

I thought it would have been awesome if groot was female, actually. It's already a bit of a sausage fest, it would have been an easy way to add some women who were more alien. Your suggestion also makes sense. Beyond the original canon there's not reason the scary/cute tree person has to be a ~male~ scary/cute tree person - he doesn't exactly perform human gender roles. Most of the cast is already action hero dudes, already.

Well anon you're in luck, James Gunn has stated that he wants more female Guardians in Guardians 2, though not Danvers, he also said no more Earthlings.

(Anonymous) - 2014-09-16 03:45 (UTC) - Expand

Groot's sex didn't bother me because he wasn't gendered in his characterization or given a romance. What DID bother me was gender-stereotyping of Eve (and to a much lesser extent, Wall-E) in Wall-E. I'm still not over that shit (in an otherwise charming little silent film romance).

I go by the headcanon that Groot couldn't care less about pronouns, but Rocket is very firm about calling Groot a "he" simply because he's had personal experience with being an "it" and doesn't want the same thing for his buddy. So if he's sure to clearly label Groot as "he" from the get-go, new people won't call Groot an it.

Yeah, I can get behind that.