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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-09-21 03:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #2819 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2819 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-09-21 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
So, what terrible thing did the show's Cercei do that would be worse than what nearly all other characters in the show have done? Hating book!Cercei I get, but the show erased nearly all of her shit and exchanged it for making her a victim of abuse and rape at the hands of her loved ones.
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2014-09-21 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I have read up on the book background to supplement my understanding of the world/people in GOT. So that also colors my view of her. But she is a manipulative, asshole who has terrorized Sansa (implicitly and explicitly) since the beginning of the show. She is also part of the reason Bran has been paralyzed.

And I don't care for people trying to excuse her actions by saying she was abused/raped. She is also an intelligent adult who understands how the world works (and has a great deal of power compared to most other people). If I could not excuse it in the real world, I am not going to excuse it in a book.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-22 06:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't disagree with what you've said, but I also don't think you can put the blame for Bran on Cersei. Granted, Jaime was trying to protect both of them, and their kids, but that was a split-second decision he made on his own. I don't know what Cersei would have done if Jaime hadn't shoved him out the window, but as it stands, she wasn't part of it. I don't think you can blame someone for what another person does in defense of you.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-22 07:43 pm (UTC)(link)
This.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-21 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
She had Lady killed.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-09-22 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
Did that happen in the show too?

I almost stopped reading the first book after that scene.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-22 06:03 pm (UTC)(link)
It did. Still horrible.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-09-22 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Ugh. :(

(Anonymous) 2014-09-22 07:42 pm (UTC)(link)
No, Robert had. His word was the law, not hers.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-09-22 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Robert was pretty fucked up too. But the malice in that scene came from Cersei (and Joffrey), and that is why those characters got more of an emotional reaction from it, imo.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-22 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
Forcing Sansa into marriage with Joffrey?

(Anonymous) 2014-09-22 06:58 pm (UTC)(link)
She's a dangerously incompetent monarch, and that's enough.

This is a story about people at the top of a feudal system, so whether they can handle their job is actually important. All the people Cersei's personally had killed, including the babies and the nice dire doggie, are a drop in the bucket compared to those she condemns with a wave of her hand and a vague "The throne can't afford to feed the Riverlands" or "If any object, have their heads off, that should silence the others" or whatever other inane shit she's spouting today.