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So the ratings are in for the season premiere and they're awful. I feel bad, because I know elements of the show are really awesome. Two female mains and they're both PoC! But gah, it bores me to tears. I just couldn't get into it last season. I still think it's a shame if it gets canceled, even if I couldn't keep on watching it.

What are the ratings? And what are Gotham's ratings? Should have kept Bones as the lead in to Sleepy Hollow.

2.0, Gotham was 3.2

Figured as much. Maybe the repeat of the episode on Thursday and DVR viewings will help.

Black. They're black. You can say it and it won't erase every other ethnicity off the earth.

That said, I loved the cast but couldn't really care for the plot. Wonky religious apocalypse theme plus shoved-in police angle is just hard to swallow. I wish it'd been just a cursed town.

Black is a racist term.

...No it isn't...

It's a simplistic and offensive descriptor. The only thing it's got going for it is that it's marginally better than "Negroid."

What do you think they - or should I say, we - be called then? I'm going to hope i'm not walking into a racist retort here.

I'm not sure what would be best, although I think terms that reference ethnicity and/or ancestry are a start. However, it would be wrong for me to say what you should or should not call yourself, or what you should or should not be comfortable with, so even if I've personally got problems with "black," it's still up to the individual to determine how they'd like to be called.

I do think that we shouldn't slap a ... idk, continental? label on everyone from a place. If I know someone is Japanese, I'm not going to call them Asian, like I wouldn't call a Nigerian person a black person because they actually have a country of origin.

"Black" isn't a country, we're not from anyplace like that. I know some people have a qualm with hypenated __________- American terms as if we aren't American enough, but frankly I'm good not being 'American enough'. But I don't have anything else to be either, so for me, it's just black.

Re: Sleepy Hollow Ratings

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Most African Americans I've known have called themselves "black."

Where I live using the term "color" [and this is including "person of color"] to describe people who aren't white is - at *best* - going to make people [of all races] uncomfortable because "colored" was used in a very racist sense to refer to non-whites, particularly blacks. At worst it will offend the very people you're saying it to not offend.

Okay, story time!

Last year I moved from a white-as-white-can-get part of town to one with many other ethnicities. At first, I called everyone of a certain group "African American" until both my upstairs neighbor AND a lady on the local council told me, and I quote: "I'm not African American, I'm black!"

These are people born and bred in my town in America, so it's not a matter of they were born in another nation. So I'll keep referring to them as "black" because I that is how I've been asked to call them by members of the group itself, especially as I make more and more friends in that group and they echo the sentiments of those first two ladies.

Yeah, I'm not crazy about the religious angle, though I still love other aspects of the show enough to more or less overlook it. I'd have preferred a town with really shitty luck myself.

Something a la Silent Hill minus the soul-crushing depression and more action scenes, starring the headless horseman. I just can't buy that the apocalypse begins in this tiny town and in such a contrived way.

It sucks because I really liked Abbie's backstory and her and Ichabod's interactions and growing bond.

lmao. This is because SJWs talk a big game about more representation, and talk shit about people that don't like their boring TV shows (if you don't like this you must be racist!!! etc) and then immediately forget all about it. They don't care about diversity in TV, they care about yelling at people.

The show is boring. It'll die off like all other boring shows.

You'll note that Brooklyn Nine Nine has one of the most diverse casts on TV, and it was a huge hit. Because hey! Not boring! But you don't hear much from SJWs on this one because everyone loves it. There's no one to yell at.

I don't know, it was just hyped up as THE NEXT XFILES, and it wasn't...at all. Oh, watch Ichabod get mad about donuts! ...Funny? He's no Maulder, that's for sure. And eh, I'd rather he not have a wife, because I just think the woman being his love interest is skeevy when he's essentially still taken. I'm supposed to find potential cheating cute? romantic? what?

Abbie isn't his love interest though. Their relationship is platonic.

For now. They've said time and time again that there's going to be the will-they-won't-they element between them, which translates directly to "when ratings plunge, we'll make them fuck".

Exactly. Potential cheating just does not interest me. It's a huge turn off and one of the reasons why I quit the show.

I watched Gotham instead. Now that was pretty entertaining.

Meh, that sucks. I love SH to death, it's so *freakin'* fun. Abbie and Jenny are amazing, Ichabod is hilarious, Capt. Irving is awesome.....
*happy sigh*

I wish more people enjoyed it.

Nooo!

I'm probably going to watch Gotham, but noooo! I really enjoy sleepy hollow, even though I feel they sort of ride on the Supernatural express train. Regardless, I enjoy seeing Ichabod and Abbie, Orlando is hilarious and Jenny is a badass... :[ I hope they don't take it away.

I enjoy it too. Like others have said I do sort of wish they'd had more of a general supernatural angle than a specifically religious one (and honestly, that's probably not helping them gain viewers), but whatever, it's still fun. I also hope it stays on.