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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-09-23 06:11 pm

[ SECRET POST #2821 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2821 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Twin Peaks]


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[Star Trek]


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[Fall Out Boy]


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[Monster]


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[Left 4 Dead 2/Grand Theft Auto 5]


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[Cabin Pressure]


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[Quantum Leap]


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[Amy Winehouse]

















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Re: Sleepy Hollow Ratings

(Anonymous) 2014-09-24 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
Black. They're black. You can say it and it won't erase every other ethnicity off the earth.

That said, I loved the cast but couldn't really care for the plot. Wonky religious apocalypse theme plus shoved-in police angle is just hard to swallow. I wish it'd been just a cursed town.

Re: Sleepy Hollow Ratings

(Anonymous) 2014-09-24 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
Black is a racist term.
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Re: Sleepy Hollow Ratings

[personal profile] morieris 2014-09-24 04:04 am (UTC)(link)
...No it isn't...

Re: Sleepy Hollow Ratings

(Anonymous) 2014-09-24 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
It's a simplistic and offensive descriptor. The only thing it's got going for it is that it's marginally better than "Negroid."
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Re: Sleepy Hollow Ratings

[personal profile] morieris 2014-09-24 04:16 am (UTC)(link)
What do you think they - or should I say, we - be called then? I'm going to hope i'm not walking into a racist retort here.

Re: Sleepy Hollow Ratings

(Anonymous) 2014-09-24 04:19 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure what would be best, although I think terms that reference ethnicity and/or ancestry are a start. However, it would be wrong for me to say what you should or should not call yourself, or what you should or should not be comfortable with, so even if I've personally got problems with "black," it's still up to the individual to determine how they'd like to be called.
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Re: Sleepy Hollow Ratings

[personal profile] morieris 2014-09-24 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
I do think that we shouldn't slap a ... idk, continental? label on everyone from a place. If I know someone is Japanese, I'm not going to call them Asian, like I wouldn't call a Nigerian person a black person because they actually have a country of origin.

"Black" isn't a country, we're not from anyplace like that. I know some people have a qualm with hypenated __________- American terms as if we aren't American enough, but frankly I'm good not being 'American enough'. But I don't have anything else to be either, so for me, it's just black.

Re: Sleepy Hollow Ratings

(Anonymous) 2014-09-24 04:59 am (UTC)(link)
I think the reason it makes me uncomfortable is bexause I'm bothered by broad racial categories in general. I'm for descriptors that individualise rather than turn people into vessels for stereotypes and assumptions. But I know that's pretty pie in the sky, as we live in a world where racial categories exist and must be dealt with, and that's not very well likely to change for a long time.

Re: Sleepy Hollow Ratings

(Anonymous) 2014-09-24 04:59 am (UTC)(link)
You're the kind of person that calls Black people from Europe or elsewhere "African-Americans", aren't you.

Re: Sleepy Hollow Ratings

(Anonymous) 2014-09-24 05:00 am (UTC)(link)
No? That would be incorrect.

Re: Sleepy Hollow Ratings

(Anonymous) 2014-09-24 11:34 am (UTC)(link)
Most African Americans I've known have called themselves "black."

Re: Sleepy Hollow Ratings

(Anonymous) 2014-09-24 04:32 am (UTC)(link)
Where I live using the term "color" [and this is including "person of color"] to describe people who aren't white is - at *best* - going to make people [of all races] uncomfortable because "colored" was used in a very racist sense to refer to non-whites, particularly blacks. At worst it will offend the very people you're saying it to not offend.

Re: Sleepy Hollow Ratings

(Anonymous) 2014-09-24 11:32 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, story time!

Last year I moved from a white-as-white-can-get part of town to one with many other ethnicities. At first, I called everyone of a certain group "African American" until both my upstairs neighbor AND a lady on the local council told me, and I quote: "I'm not African American, I'm black!"

These are people born and bred in my town in America, so it's not a matter of they were born in another nation. So I'll keep referring to them as "black" because I that is how I've been asked to call them by members of the group itself, especially as I make more and more friends in that group and they echo the sentiments of those first two ladies.

Re: Sleepy Hollow Ratings

(Anonymous) 2014-09-24 11:33 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'm not crazy about the religious angle, though I still love other aspects of the show enough to more or less overlook it. I'd have preferred a town with really shitty luck myself.

Re: Sleepy Hollow Ratings

(Anonymous) 2014-09-24 04:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Something a la Silent Hill minus the soul-crushing depression and more action scenes, starring the headless horseman. I just can't buy that the apocalypse begins in this tiny town and in such a contrived way.

It sucks because I really liked Abbie's backstory and her and Ichabod's interactions and growing bond.