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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-09-24 06:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #2822 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2822 ⌋

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Harry Potter written without the ~magic~/witchcraft

(Anonymous) 2014-09-24 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I was linked to this fic earlier today:
https://m.fanfiction.net/s/10644439/1/Hogwarts-School-of-Prayer-and-Miracles

Supposedly it's by a Christian mom who's rewriting HP because her kids aren't allowed to read about witchcraft (she doesn't want them to become witches, you see). I'm pretty sure that it has to be a troll, because some of the remarks/dialogue about religion and such is just SO on-point, but.....maybe it's not?? So I just wanted to get all y'all's opinion about this.

Sorry, the fic is pretty poorly written (unclear if that was intentional) - I do not think you understand what "retort" means...

Re: Harry Potter written without the ~magic~/witchcraft

(Anonymous) 2014-09-24 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
What makes you think troll, the premise or the actual writing?

(because sorry, I'm not reading anything written like that. Too many bad memories. I can't critique the writing for you.)

Because the purpose/premise? Is absolutely what Christians think. I used to be in that world. I used to work at a Christian bookstore that existed in the same mall with a B&N. The staff getting together for a collective rant about how HP was full of witchcraft and going to turn a generation of kids into witches is one of my coldest, most frightening memories of that place. It happened the day after one of the midnight releases of one of the books, I don't remember which.

Nice people, but terribly misinformed. As long as some pastor somewhere says a thing is witchcraft and you should run away from it, the collective sheep will eat it up and parrot it back, and never think for themselves on the matter. So I would completely believe that some mother thinks the best way to keep her kids from being laughed at because they never read HP is to write them a Christianized fic of it. If anything, I'm surprised someone didn't do it 15 years ago already.

Re: Harry Potter written without the ~magic~/witchcraft

(Anonymous) 2014-09-24 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, I think if you read the writing (though I understand you don't want to, for valid reasons) you would understand OP's question - I agree that the premise of "crazy right-wing Christian thinks HP is the devil's work" is PERFECTLY realistic, but the execution here does bring up some questions about the veracity of the author's supposed beliefs (imo).

But sorry that you had to go through that. :/
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Re: Harry Potter written without the ~magic~/witchcraft

[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-09-25 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
Because the purpose/premise? Is absolutely what Christians think.

Thanks for that, but...no. Some Christians, sure, but don't act like you know the entire faith inside and out just because of the staff at one bookstore.

Re: Harry Potter written without the ~magic~/witchcraft

(Anonymous) 2014-09-24 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
sorry, but nothing beats the one about Harry Potter and communism.

Re: Harry Potter written without the ~magic~/witchcraft

(Anonymous) 2014-09-24 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
That one's a really, really funny joke but I also want a Harry Potter fic that does just end in a revolt of the proletariat b/c that shit would be funny as hell

Re: Harry Potter written without the ~magic~/witchcraft

(Anonymous) 2014-09-25 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
sort of interested in this now...

Re: Harry Potter written without the ~magic~/witchcraft

(Anonymous) 2014-09-25 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9655837/1/Harry-Potter-Becomes-A-Communist

Re: Harry Potter written without the ~magic~/witchcraft

(Anonymous) 2014-09-25 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
thanks!
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Re: Harry Potter written without the ~magic~/witchcraft

[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-09-25 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
the title of the last chapter made me cackle
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Re: Harry Potter written without the ~magic~/witchcraft

[personal profile] mekkio 2014-09-24 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Pssst, if she is against witchcraft don't tell her that there is witchcraft in the bible. (Google "the witch of Endor.")

Re: Harry Potter written without the ~magic~/witchcraft

(Anonymous) 2014-09-24 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I knew those fucking Ewoks were up to know good!
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Re: Harry Potter written without the ~magic~/witchcraft

[personal profile] mekkio 2014-09-24 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Of course they were no good. Dude, they were two seconds away from cooking, butchering and eating Han Solo and the rest. Cute as those alien teddy bears were they ate people! People always over look this.

Re: Harry Potter written without the ~magic~/witchcraft

[personal profile] ex_mek82 2014-09-24 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I work at a Christian bookstore and you'd be surprised at how many of my co-workers like or love the Harry Potter series in some form or another. And my best friend -and a Catholic convert- *loves* the books and movies as well. The whole witchcraft/wizardry stuff doesn't really bother them at all, probably because the narrative themes of the book and the characters are sound enough for them to look past/reconcile those elements. I guess for some people, a cigar is just a cigar... or a book is just a book, in this case.

Frankly, I'm of a mind that if you're going to pitch a fit about Harry Potter, you might as well throw Narnia and Lord of the Rings out with the bathwater as well, since those have magical elements as well (despite being written by an Anglican and a Catholic, respectively). lmao.

(Disclaimer: I could never get into 'Harry Potter' because fantasy in general was never my cup of tea. I'm more of a science-fiction person, personally, but I digress)
Edited 2014-09-24 23:30 (UTC)
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Re: Harry Potter written without the ~magic~/witchcraft

[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-09-25 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
I work at a Christian bookstore and you'd be surprised

Why? Is this a way more common phenomenon than I thought? I thought only a few crazy conservative idiots actually were against Harry Potter. The majority of people I know like it, Christian or not.

Re: Harry Potter written without the ~magic~/witchcraft

(Anonymous) 2014-09-25 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
na

That's my experience as well. Even living in Texas, I knew relatively few people who were absolutely against the books aside from a few of my friends' parents. My parents loved them, most of my teachers enjoyed them and they were always made available in the school library
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Re: Harry Potter written without the ~magic~/witchcraft

[personal profile] elialshadowpine 2014-09-25 09:48 am (UTC)(link)
It's mostly just a few crazy loudmouths, yes. They just happen to be really loud. My parents consider themselves conservative Christians (Mom is more moderate-liberal leaning, really, but Dad went through a phase of going through the "spiritual warfare" nutjob fundie books; example: I was listening to Rammstein while doing dishes and didn't hear him come home in time to turn it off, so I got yelled at... not for the lyrics, when my Dad spent 5yrs in Germany and is reasonably proficient, but because it was "in another language and music in other languages is really witches casting spells to sign your soul away to Satan" I CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP).

Anyway. *cough*

My Mom is a HUGE SFF geek. Like, we watched Star Trek and various other SF shows growing up, and she and I would trade SFF books back and forth. I got her hooked on Laurell K. Hamilton (before she went off the deep end) and Anne Bishop. We went to Star Trek conventions and I met a lot of my favorite actors from the different shows. Even my DAD, although he didn't read SFF, would sit down to watch TNG and DS9 and VOY with us (all of us quit ENT in disgust), and movies? Holy fucking shit I had no idea my dad was such a fanboy for LOTR when those movies came out. But we saw... hell, if it was SFF-y at all? We saw it. (Or my parents saw the ones they thought were "too mature" for us and we snuck at later on. I'm still annoyed they wouldn't let me watch Batman Returns with Catwoman, who I was a HUGE fangirl/girlcrush for with watching the animated show, when I was 8 or so even though they let me read the novelization and making of the movie books.)

So... yeah. Not even all crazy fundies hate SFF and think it's witchcraft. (Even if they think music in foreign languages is witchcraft... *shakes head*)
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Re: Harry Potter written without the ~magic~/witchcraft

[personal profile] author_by_night 2014-09-25 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
I know pretty religious people myself who love Harry Potter. And honestly, if you want to find them you could say there's Christian themes. I feel like a lot of people who think they're not Christian haven't actually read the books, or they have but with "they're evil" visors on.

Re: Harry Potter written without the ~magic~/witchcraft

(Anonymous) 2014-09-24 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
For a moment there I thought it was a fan following the trend of making the HP universe all about the muggleborns and how they're sooo much better than the magic side of their world, who decided to just fucking rewrite Harry Potter as a regular boarding school with internet and shit. I'm kind of relieved.

I dunno if it's a troll, though. I've seen published books that explore the Harry Potter/Christianity relationship, and fics for other fandoms where the characters find God, so it's not too impossible.

Re: Harry Potter written without the ~magic~/witchcraft

(Anonymous) 2014-09-24 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Definitely a troll. The way the sentences are constructed around both religious and atheist concepts is not the way sincere believers of either kind construct those sentences. I've read a lot of stuff by genuine fundamentalist nutjobs, and this ain't one.

Re: Harry Potter written without the ~magic~/witchcraft

(Anonymous) 2014-09-24 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought the same...
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Re: Harry Potter written without the ~magic~/witchcraft

[personal profile] sarillia 2014-09-25 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed. I can believe plenty of things that have other people yelling troll because I have talked to some really ridiculous fundamentalists, but I have to agree that this one is a troll.
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Re: Harry Potter written without the ~magic~/witchcraft

[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-09-25 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
I've seen it. I'm convinced it's a troll. It's too great/awful not to be.

Re: Harry Potter written without the ~magic~/witchcraft

(Anonymous) 2014-09-25 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
"How will we get to this school, Hagrid?" Harry queried curiously.

"We will pray," Hagrid retorted knowledgeably.

"How do we do that?" Harry solicited inquisitively.


It has to be a troll. Either that or a mother who doesn't realize that little kids (who she's supposedly writing it for) won't understand those words. If that's not enough, my other reason for believing it's a troll shows up directly after that:

"Watch," Hagrid said; and then got down on his knees on the road. He motioned for Harry to get down on his knees too. Hagrid raised his hands to the heavens; and cried out in a deep, thunderous voice, "Dear Lord, take us to Hogwarts!"

Harry felt himself being whisked away; and in a moment, he was sitting in the cool, damp grass outside a humongous, beautiful castle.


Yeah, no. Nice try, author, but you tipped your hand too early.

Re: Harry Potter written without the ~magic~/witchcraft

(Anonymous) 2014-09-25 05:36 am (UTC)(link)
I just saw this on my Yahoo page. What I don't understand is, HP has been written, rewritten and AU'd up so much I'm surprised no one has published it as OF. So why is this one AU getting attention enough to rate a feed on Yahoo?