[ SECRET POST #2822 ]

[case]

⌈ Secret Post #2822 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.


__________________________________________________



02.
[Psycho-Pass]


__________________________________________________



03.
[LoadingReadyRun]


__________________________________________________



04.
[Ella Masar and Erin McLeod (NWSL)]


__________________________________________________



05.
[Hadaka Shitsuji]


__________________________________________________



06.
[Richard Armitage]


__________________________________________________



07.
[Arrow]


__________________________________________________



08.
[Stargate SG-1]


__________________________________________________



09.
[Outlander]
















Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 027 secrets from Secret Submission Post #403.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: Rant Thread:

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not making a pro-life argument, though, whether or not a pro-lifer would agree with me and then draw an erroneous conclusion. I'm making an argument that sex is an adult act and it has adult consequences that come with it. Therefore, adult decision-making needs to be involved on everyone's part. A guy who gets a girl pregnant should have already had the conversation, at the very least with himself, of "Do I really want to get this girl pregnant? Is she a reasonable human being? What if I do get her pregnant? Will she involve me in choices regarding the child?"

And a girl who gets pregnant should have had the same conversation, at the very least with herself, but in reverse. "If I were to get pregnant, would this guy disappear on me? Am I ready to be a mother? Is he ready to be a father?" Ideally, these people would have actually had these conversations with each other, or at the VERY LEAST only have protected sex. Actions have consequences, yo. And unfortunately, once the guy lets the cat out of the bag, so to speak, all he can really do here in the real world is sit back and wait for his potential consequences to unfold.

Re: Rant Thread:

[(Anonymous)]

the logical rubric we use to think about abortion in regards to questions like these, as I understand that, is that even if your answers to those questions aren't carefully considered, or you change your mind, that shouldn't matter - you're still free to make a decision and control your own life and your own destiny. i agree that adult decision making has to take place on all levels. but sometimes it doesn't, and you still have to make a decision. and sometimes your mind changes unexpectedly. and you can't control that. it's an adult decision, yes, and everyone has to live with those consequences, but there is a decision available to men and it's to not be involved with the child.

i don't think anyone would say that any of the conversations you're describing here - their outcome or whether they take place at all - should impinge in any way on a woman's right to have an abortion, nor should they. so i don't understand why they should define a man's role and attitude towards a potential child. i don't understand why you would obligate a man to play a certain role in regards to an unborn child using the same logic that pro-life people use to restrict women and obligate them into a certain role, and use language about 'having to bear the consequences of having sex' that would fit perfectly well in with the rhetoric of a pro-choice person, and not see that as contradictory.

i do think, personally, all things being equal, the man should try to play a role in the child's life, but i don't see any reason to mandate that or even to demand it. i honestly, legitimately don't see any reason at all.

Re: Rant Thread:

[(Anonymous)]

but there is a decision available to men and it's to not be involved with the child

And that's what ends up happening. So I guess at the end of the day, my thought on the entire matter is, think more than 5 minutes ahead in time and everything will work out all right.