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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-09-24 06:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #2822 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2822 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Psycho-Pass]


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[LoadingReadyRun]


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[Ella Masar and Erin McLeod (NWSL)]


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[Hadaka Shitsuji]


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[Richard Armitage]


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[Arrow]


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[Stargate SG-1]


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[Outlander]
















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Re: Rant Thread:

(Anonymous) 2014-09-25 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
the logical rubric we use to think about abortion in regards to questions like these, as I understand that, is that even if your answers to those questions aren't carefully considered, or you change your mind, that shouldn't matter - you're still free to make a decision and control your own life and your own destiny. i agree that adult decision making has to take place on all levels. but sometimes it doesn't, and you still have to make a decision. and sometimes your mind changes unexpectedly. and you can't control that. it's an adult decision, yes, and everyone has to live with those consequences, but there is a decision available to men and it's to not be involved with the child.

i don't think anyone would say that any of the conversations you're describing here - their outcome or whether they take place at all - should impinge in any way on a woman's right to have an abortion, nor should they. so i don't understand why they should define a man's role and attitude towards a potential child. i don't understand why you would obligate a man to play a certain role in regards to an unborn child using the same logic that pro-life people use to restrict women and obligate them into a certain role, and use language about 'having to bear the consequences of having sex' that would fit perfectly well in with the rhetoric of a pro-choice person, and not see that as contradictory.

i do think, personally, all things being equal, the man should try to play a role in the child's life, but i don't see any reason to mandate that or even to demand it. i honestly, legitimately don't see any reason at all.

Re: Rant Thread:

(Anonymous) 2014-09-25 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
but there is a decision available to men and it's to not be involved with the child

And that's what ends up happening. So I guess at the end of the day, my thought on the entire matter is, think more than 5 minutes ahead in time and everything will work out all right.