[ SECRET POST #2823 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2823 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I take it as more disappointed that foreign media gets this right while our own media can't.

[morieris]

Well why wouldn't they? It's not like meaningful female media is totally unheard of, and the Western country of your choice is the forerunner in changing it. (Unless you mean that they probably don't know about the test and their shows just happen to pass it)

[(Anonymous)]

In the US, if there are two women who talk about something besides men, it doesn't take long before their love lives are front and center of their character off and on. :c Unfortunately.

[(Anonymous)]

For me, it's that specifically JAPANESE media is better than our media.

When the fucking Japanese are producing less sexist shit than we are, we need to take a good long look at what we have let ourselves become.

[brightblueink]

The Bechdel test only tests for one VERY SPECIFIC form of sexism. Japanese anime tends to have more female characters in general, but there's a lot of female character-heavy genres that are specifically made to be geared toward men (harem, "moe" slice-of-life, ecchi, etc), and while those shows don't HAVE to be sexist a lot of them tend to have at least of undercurrent of sexism.

Plus, remember that the Bechdel test was made for movies, and a lot of anime consumed in the west is TV shows, which have a LOT more time to give even minor characters some dialogue that doesn't have to drive the plot home. Maybe two female characters have a discussion that doesn't have to do with a man in one episode, but that doesn't mean the other 10-25 episodes feature something like that.

I don't really know if anime or western media is better at portraying women, but I don't think the Bechdel test is necessarily a good measure of that.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

[iggy]

Japanese media is not less sexist.