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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-09-25 06:30 pm

[ SECRET POST #2823 ]


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(Anonymous) 2014-09-25 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel like if your defense is "there's usually one thing a season that's not shitty", you're kind of fundamentally ceding to the fact that there's just less stuff on the top end. So while there was plenty of shitty stuff back in the day, and people do tend to be deluded by nostalgia, it's hard not to escape the idea that it has got worse in terms of the amount of really excellent stuff coming out.

THAT SAID I barely watch anime any more and almost exclusively keep up with manga so I have no expertise whatsoever.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-25 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I think you're missing the point of what they're saying. There's just as much shit as there always has been.

People just aren't going to remember anything but the good stuff because it wasn't memorable.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-25 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm saying, if there's just as much shit, but less good stuff, then people are justified in saying the state of the industry is worse.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-25 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
But that's. Not what's happening. It's the same ratio as it's always been.

The point of the nostalgia comment is that... People act like there's some kind of "golden days" where anime was entirely amazing and awesome when, no, it's always been the same ratio.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-25 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
This. There is a LOT of older anime that was shit, the only difference was that we either didn't get it over here or no one watched it if we did.

I've seen plenty of anime from the 80s and 90s that was legitimately terrible. Garzey's Wing, anyone?

(Anonymous) 2014-09-25 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
And Magnos the Robot. D:

(Anonymous) 2014-09-25 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
The thing is, those in other countries during that "Golden Age" only got to SEE the best shows/movies. Because that's what made it through the laborious send VHS tapes across the ocean and subbing on nth generation tapes stage.

Now with simulcasting, we see EVERYTHING. Including the crappy shows that got filtered out in earlier decades. So it's not that the industry overall has gotten worse. It's just that we get the duds along with the good shows/movies now.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-26 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
But on the plus side, we also get the hidden gems that might have seemed to niche to bring over "back in the day"

(Anonymous) 2014-09-26 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
That is very true. :)
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[personal profile] brightblueink 2014-09-26 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
Nah, I don't really think so. I think tastes have somewhat changed--we don't get as many, say, western-influenced action shows like Trigun, Berserk or even FMA/Attack on Titan, but that doesn't mean that things are shitty. Particularly since the "at least one thing each season" is a really conservative estimate, and IMO means "at least one thing each season that someone that likes anime could enjoy." Myself, I usually have at LEAST two things a season I want to follow, and several other series I later watch and enjoy (or that I hear a ton of good things about) but didn't have the time to consume on a weekly basis.

I was actually going to try to compare the average scores of the top anime of every year on ANN for the last 30 years or so to satisfy my curiosity to see if popular perception that anime isn't as good recently actually holds up, but...I've been working on it off and on for over 2 hours and I haven't gotten past 1997. I'm too lazy for thiiiiiiis...D: