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[making_excuses]

Maybe, or more likely the fact that I mixed my personal experience in with the general workings of high intelligence isn't making my point come across as well as it should. I am sorry that happened to you!

Not all kids who are highly intelligent get bullied but Highly Intelligent children are in general ahead of their peers in social interactions, which is why they can end up outsiders. Also not all people with High Intelligence have the same issues as me, nor have any kind of standard social issues, but the fact of the matter is still that our brains work differently, which must affect us all in one way or another and for most that is relating to other people, if it shows or not is an entire different matter which I should have clarified.

But the fact remains that people in general don't want to believe it is possible for a child to be as smart (this is probably a more country to country divide than a general one) as they can be, the fact that I did not get the education I should have gotten because the fact is that Norway is way behind the rest of the world when it comes to recognising highly intelligent children, or even believing such a thing exists. As a child was IQ tested (because they thought I was delayed, both socially and mentally and found to have at that time I had an IQ of 146, do you know what they did with that fact? Refused to give me extra help in mathematics because I did well in all other subjects, that's it.

The research done in Norway on Highly Intelligent people show that a great deal of us are not reaching a potential, that a lot of us don't ever finish a higher education because we have lost our motivation long before it reaches to this point, are a handicap. But on the other hand I am currently in my fifth year of higher education and I still have not read more than maybe 10% tops of the required reading, and my grades are in the top 10% of my class. Which on the surface seems like a positive thing, but you know what? One day I will come to a point in my education where my memory isn't enough anymore and I have to actually read something to learn it, and I will not know how to do that. I have no fucking clue what goes into studying...

I don't ever think my brain, my intelligence or my social capacities are a handicap*, but it sure as hell is not a privilege. I don't want to be smarter than most of the people I meet, I always have to make sure I don't hold it over anyone that I am smarter than them (even if I don't think that is any kind of judgement of character), I have to hold a part of me back at all times. Which is mentally draining, but it isn't the worst thing in the world, I understand that others have it worse. On the other hand the belief that being highly intelligent is a gift or something you would want is wrong, I would never wish for my children to be that intelligent...

*Just like I don't look at my chronic illness as an handicap, or the fact that as someone who has been in the foster system the stats tell me that most of us don't ever reach higher ed. a depressing amount of us end up in prison or addicted to drugs.

woah that was long, anyway one day I will find a way to explain this in a way that people will understand and I will save myself a lot of frustration.

[feotakahari]

I'll grant you this much, there may be different ways of being high-IQ. I got a 193 on the Stanford-Binet, which I was told implies at least 160-something on the Wechsler. For me, what that means is that I am really, really good at anything that I can frame in terms of formal logic and if-then statements. On the other hand, I don't have any aptitude for games like chess, I do terribly at anything that involves lateral thinking, I tend to need a walkthrough to beat adventure games . . . I think there's a very narrow skillset that IQ test creators designated as "intelligence," and my having that skillset may not make me the same as an actual genius.

[making_excuses]

You must have taken an older test than me it seems, or not necessarily, I was curious about the different tests, as I never bothered to figure out which one I took as a kid. So been learning more than I will ever need to know about the different IQ tests there anyway the Norwegian Children's Psychiatric Service uses the Wechsler Intelligence Test for Children, so I would assume that is the one I was tested with, and my 156 score is according to my shiny graph thingy I found comparatively lower than yours, but in the same bracket Or the thing stops at 145+ for the Stanford - Binet one as the scoring system has changed and the higher scores are only on the older test, actually my score is also after an older test, but it was still in the graph I found.

Anyway I am good at problem solving and have a great memory, but there are huge gaps in my knowledge and skillsets, and I might be highly intelligent, but I don't do anything with the potential. Only way I use my it is when I remember the plot to the 10 - 20 books I am currently reading (as in been reading some of them for a couple of years now, I just put them back in the shelf and forget about them) and remembering television plots, oh and if you ever hang out with me I will mostly always be able to tell you where you put something if I was in the room while you put it down. I study something that is so easy that anyone could do it, honestly my BA is the easiest thing on earth, you just need to use logic and you are golden.

Anyway what I should get better at is not having two discussions at once when people don't realize it, because if you don't know me you will not be able to follow me.

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you for all your posts tonight, making_excuses. They have helped me realize that really smart people can actually be really dumb.

[making_excuses]

... No really, who'd have thought it.

[(Anonymous)]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but that's not that high a score.

[making_excuses]

I'll tell that to my Profoundly Gifted label in my Children Protective Services journal then? But I have no bubble, most people I know, know more about something than I do, I can always learn new things. I am intelligent, not necessarily smart, I do have better tools than a lot of people, but other than that and a faster brain there is nothing special with me, heck I don't even have depth perception.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Look, I personally think IQ tests are bullshit, but making_excuse's self-reported score is a high score and puts her in the high end of the scale of most IQ scales (which you can find by doing a quick google, which I did). Whether that means anything or says something fundamental about her is a different matter which people have been discussing with her throughout this thread, but whether making_excuse's IQ is a high IQ is not in dispute here.

But, you know, if you're only comparing her IQ to that of geniuses in TV shows or the estimated IQs of 'geniuses' throughout history then sure, she's a dumby-dumb-stupid-head. As are we all.

[(Anonymous)]

It's not that high a score if the only IQ tests you've been exposed to are the fake ones that get passed around the internet and whose sole purpose is to make everyone feel smart.

[(Anonymous)]

What... I just... I don't even know, man. From this comment I'd assume you're a troll were you not an fs regular.

[making_excuses]

Neither did anyone expect the Spanish Inquisition, but still here we are.