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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-10-09 06:18 pm

[ SECRET POST #2837 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2837 ⌋

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[personal profile] chardmonster 2014-10-09 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Dude

Geek culture is built almost entirely upon consumption. What we create is mostly based off shit that's being sold to us, in a cycle of buying shit and creating shit that advertises that shit as a consequence.

The solution isn't leaving geek culture but rather transcending it. Don't make "geek" or "fan" your primary identity. Be a you who is also geeky.
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[personal profile] chardmonster 2014-10-09 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh jesus christ I just read that

GURU LAGHIMA SAYS ONE MUST LOOSE ONE'S GEEKLY TETHER AND ENTER THE VOID WHICH IS WHY I USE PIRATE BAY

Edited 2014-10-09 23:08 (UTC)

[personal profile] solticisekf 2014-10-09 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
transcend and pirate. Ok, the wise one.

(Anonymous) 2014-10-09 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think this is actually true, historically. Like, I don't think it's an accurate description at all of old SF fandom, for instance. I think if it's true, it's become true relatively recently.

I agree re: transcending labels and identities. Just not sure how accurate a read that is.

(Anonymous) 2014-10-09 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
The only reason it wasn't always true is that no one had realized just how profitable it could be. Apart from Games Workshop who realized pretty early on in their existence just how much money they could mine from gullible gamers. It was a lot.
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[personal profile] chardmonster 2014-10-09 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
It depends on what you mean by recently, then. I think at least since the seventies (definitely post-Star Wars) it's been like this. Basically the time most of us have been alive.

Like I said upthread, it LOOKS worse because there's more things to buy. For most of the seventies most people can't buy copies of filmed works. In the 1980s Americans were relying on bootlegged questionably translated anime because it isn't available here.

(Anonymous) 2014-10-09 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess by recently I was thinking 90s-ish. I agree that it's been a definite element since at least the late 70s.

But whatever you want to say about the dates, I do think it's something that came into existence later than nerd culture did.

Also I also responded to you upthread, sorry

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2014-10-10 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
The funny thing about geeks and Star Wars is that everyone was into Star Wars when the original movies were released. By the end of the 80s, you couldn't give Star Wars toys away because every family had a bunch in a box in the closet somewhere. Lucas was so aggressive at selling marketing rights (largely because he had to give away just about everything else to keep the studio from shutting him down during production of episode four), you could find a Star Wars branded product on practically every aisle of the grocery store.

And really, probably the only brand that comes close to punching in the same category of marketing as George Lucas in the 70s and 80s is the Disney Princess.

What separated Star Wars geeks from everybody else who watched the most successful movie blockbuster series of the decade was the crazy hoarder mentality that developed years after everyone else grew up and moved on.
Edited 2014-10-10 02:17 (UTC)