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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-10-11 03:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #2839 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2839 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-10-12 05:09 pm (UTC)(link)
The thing is, it shouldn't be a big deal she's in a dress. But people make it a big deal. And also? No, it wasn't fanservice, despite poor localization! That entire moment was about Naoto being comfortable with no longer outwardly identifying as a boy.

But yes, they chickened out. Despite calling out some heavy fucking sexism in a lot of places. But because they didn't do what you wanted to do, they chickened out. Despite Rise deciding to use her status as an idol to help little girls be comfortable with themselves. Despite Chie realizing she didn't have to change because being an Ideal Woman didn't matter. Despite Yukiko realizing that she could walk out at any time if she became actually dissatisfied with her life. But nope, because they didn't run away from their problems outright by quitting, they chickened out.
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[personal profile] scrubber 2014-10-13 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
If it shouldn't have been a big deal, why did it happen? What did it prove? Why is there yet another arc of a tomboy showing her feminine side as proof of growth and depth? Do you think this is a coincidence? If Naoto was a male there would be no such expectation, that only exists because she's female and needs to prove it, or she's obviously missing something. The options in the game where you pressure Naoto into being more feminine are presented without judgement or consequence, because the writers sympathize with that desire.

Look, Persona as a whole took some great steps forward. It did a lot of things right. That doesn't mean it's perfect, it dropped the ball in places. Just because something makes you feel good doesn't mean it's beyond criticism.

I'm glad you agree they chickened out though. I mean, that much was obvious.