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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-11-02 03:38 pm

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Re: Representation of Black People in Hollywood Films

(Anonymous) 2014-11-02 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with you WRT the stuff about being told to sit down and shut up, because that is dumb.

That said, even if % of actors being cast in roles roughly mirrors population percentage, that does not mean that there are no problems with representation - representation is also a problem of what kind of roles people get to play, who is being cast in lead roles, etc. I mean, I don't think it would be all that good for representation if there was a black guy in every movie but he was always the sidekick or the first person to die.

Re: Representation of Black People in Hollywood Films

(Anonymous) 2014-11-02 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Not to mention the fact that sometimes in shows/movies set in diverse places like New York City, there are hardly any black or other minorities in them. It has gotten better in recent years though.
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Re: Representation of Black People in Hollywood Films

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-11-02 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I think that is a better wording. While you do see black people in Hollywood films, they are almost always sidekicks, "best friends", minor characters.

I have no numbers, but I have a feeling that if you named Hollywood features with a black protagonist and a white sidekick, the percentage would be far lower.

That being said, it really sucks this woman was playing oppression Olympics with an Arab woman of all people.
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Re: Representation of Black People in Hollywood Films

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2014-11-02 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Seconding this. So many black characters are written in a horribly cliche-y way. And I bet the figures would change dramatically if we were talking about black main protagonists.

That being said, people who tell you they "have it worse" and that hence you aren't allowed to have an opinion are either shitty or stupid, whatever their skin colour.

Re: Representation of Black People in Hollywood Films

(Anonymous) 2014-11-02 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess I should point out that her reasoning that I had it better is because I'm "basically white" (since Arabs and Middle-Eastern people often check off "white" on the census). Well…I have to say someone should have informed the white people I grew up with of that…

I'll admit though that I might have gotten a bit annoyed. I ended up telling her that even if she thinks that's the case, the issue of representing white women/black men couples on TV, for example, is still far more controversial than the reverse even though they're far more common in real life. And it just devolved from there….

But…yeah…you're right that it is a bit simplistic to go by pure numbers. So it probably isn't a very fair point to bring that up.

Re: Representation of Black People in Hollywood Films

(Anonymous) 2014-11-02 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
That's a really awful and ignorant response. In the past ten years, there's been a lot of racism against Arab-Americans and a lot of hate crimes committed against them, and it's really not right for her to dismiss that.

Re: Representation of Black People in Hollywood Films

(Anonymous) 2014-11-02 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't feel sorry for there being so many black character's cast as a flamboyant, jive-talking, pimp. They just look so damn stylish. You show me a white person that is half as good in that role, or even half as stylish at all, and we'll let it go. Blacks managed to come up with the single greatest expression of pure cool the human race every generated or is ever likely to generate, and they'll just have to live with that. Damn straight!