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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-11-06 06:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #2865 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2865 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Once Upon a Time]


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[Transformers: Prime]


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[Star Trek: The Next Generation]


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[Malcolm Tucker, The Thick of It]


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[Once Upon a Time]


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[Flight Rising]


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[Transformers: Prime]


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[Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.]
















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(Anonymous) 2014-11-07 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but no offense to your Mary Sue plot, even the Shades of Gray episode was better than NuTrek. Even Profit and Lace was...no, wait. I'll give NuTrek that. It is better than Profit and Lace.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-07 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
*sigh* It's a real drag how every plot featuring a young women doing something is considered a Mary Sue plot.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-07 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
This.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-07 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
Mary Sue? This shit again?

(Anonymous) 2014-11-07 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
We're knocking the childhood fantasies of secret OPs now? You never pretended you were a character in a fictional universe?!

(Anonymous) 2014-11-07 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
MTE. Anon must have had a very boring childhood.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-07 05:52 am (UTC)(link)
Anon spent their childhood improving their mind by constant contemplation of the steam engine.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-07 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
It's called "self-insert," not Mary Sue. While self-inserts are often Sues, they don't have to be. I've written self-insert fics where I was the opposite of a Sue: I couldn't do anything right and nobody liked me.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-07 12:26 pm (UTC)(link)
A Jerk Sue then, its just another variation on Mary Sue. They are a sign of worse writing than a normal Mary Sue, because it shows that the author knows they are an obstacle to good story-telling, but wrote it anyway.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/JerkSue

(Anonymous) 2014-11-07 03:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think you read what I wrote or the article you linked.

"The basis of this trope is the tendency of many Darker and Edgier writers to create a bitter, ill-spirited, confrontational, or downright mean character and still play them up as an ideal person, or just get away with being a bullying Jerkass. The other characters tolerate the antics (which can range from petty to sociopathic), allowing him/her to walk all over them and talking them up in their conversations with each other."

"I couldn't do anything right" =/= "bitter, ill-spirited, confrontational or downright mean"

"Nobody liked me" =/= "still play them up as an ideal person, or just get away with being a bullying Jerkass"

In fact, it's pretty much the opposite. Which is not to say what I wrote was good writing. It's just an example of the fact that you can write a self-insert without its being a Mary Sue.