[ SECRET POST #2865 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2865 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Once Upon a Time]


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[Transformers: Prime]


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[Star Trek: The Next Generation]


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[Malcolm Tucker, The Thick of It]


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[Once Upon a Time]


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[Flight Rising]


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[Transformers: Prime]


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[Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.]
















Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 013 secrets from Secret Submission Post #409.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - random image ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

It's called "self-insert," not Mary Sue. While self-inserts are often Sues, they don't have to be. I've written self-insert fics where I was the opposite of a Sue: I couldn't do anything right and nobody liked me.

[(Anonymous)]

A Jerk Sue then, its just another variation on Mary Sue. They are a sign of worse writing than a normal Mary Sue, because it shows that the author knows they are an obstacle to good story-telling, but wrote it anyway.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/JerkSue

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think you read what I wrote or the article you linked.

"The basis of this trope is the tendency of many Darker and Edgier writers to create a bitter, ill-spirited, confrontational, or downright mean character and still play them up as an ideal person, or just get away with being a bullying Jerkass. The other characters tolerate the antics (which can range from petty to sociopathic), allowing him/her to walk all over them and talking them up in their conversations with each other."

"I couldn't do anything right" =/= "bitter, ill-spirited, confrontational or downright mean"

"Nobody liked me" =/= "still play them up as an ideal person, or just get away with being a bullying Jerkass"

In fact, it's pretty much the opposite. Which is not to say what I wrote was good writing. It's just an example of the fact that you can write a self-insert without its being a Mary Sue.