[ SECRET POST #2866 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2866 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Strictly Come Dancing, linked for nudity]


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08. [ SPOILERS for Bleak Expectations]



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09. [ SPOILERS for Watchmen ]



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10. [ SPOILERS for Transformers: More than Meets the Eye ]



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11. [ WARNING for child sexual abuse ]



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12. [ WARNING for rape, gore, etc]

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #409.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - ships it ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Well, I will tell you as a white woman in fandom, I am terrified to write POC characters, no matter how much I love them.

[iceyred]

Why?

[(Anonymous)]

Do you really have to ask the question? How many stories have been lambasted because they're told by a person who's the wrong color? Fandom is my happy place. I ain't even going there.

[iceyred]

Yes, I do. I've written characters from demographics other than my own and I've never gotten jumped on for that. I'm not sure how any reviewers would KNOW you're the 'wrong' color unless you told them. And if you do get bad reviews then you can just delete them. Boom, problem solved.

[(Anonymous)]

LOL. I love that your solution is just deleting bad reviews.

[iceyred]

/Shrug.

I'd rather delete something I don't want to see than let some tumblr loser scare me away from writing a fanfic about a character who would not check the same census boxes I do.

[(Anonymous)]

Tumblr segregation is fucking terrifying, no lie.

[(Anonymous)]

Different anon

My two cents:

I'm a WOC but I can sympathize with AYRT -- I am terrified of being hounded for messing up or stepping on toes when it comes to black characters. I've already been attacked because I shipped a black character with the "wrong" person. And there's a segment of Tumblr that won't' hesitate to call you racist over it.

[iceyred]

Why do you care what tumblr thinks of you? And you can just delete any bad reviews.

[(Anonymous)]

Because when you start getting dog piled about it -- people stalking your blog even when you've put them on ignore -- the hostility gets to you after a while. And, quite honestly, I've dealt with some really awful racism against myself and my family and so I don't deal with being called a racist over shipping all that well. Maybe I'm being a needlessly sensitive whiner, but it's just easier for me to ignore the character rather than deal with that crap.

[(Anonymous)]

I hear you. On some level, yeah, who cares what Tumblr thinks of you? But on the other hand, I come to fandom to have fun, and if you're getting dogpiled, it becomes less and less fun. I don't want to deal with that shit. So I choose avoidance rather than confrontation - fandom isn't serious business to me, it's my escape from real life issues, and I'm just here to have fun.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't get this attitude. If the feedback is constructive, use it. If it seems ridiculous ask for different opinions.

[(Anonymous)]

It isn't constructive -- they're literally telling me I'm racist because I ship a black character with the "wrong" person. I'd have to totally change the pairing I ship which….nope. Not gonna happen.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

Sorry, I'm not implying that all feedback is constructive.
Which pairing are you shipping? I'm kind of curious now.

[(Anonymous)]

Totally different anon

"Wrong" shipping? This is FANDOM. SHIP WHOEVER the fuck you want. Honestly. I tend to ship my favorite WOC characters with my favorite white guy characters. I don't give a shit. I think their character dynamics are interesting together (particular characters, often crossovers). And if there's a black/hispanic/asian/idgas male character whom I feel like have a great dynamic, I'll write / read the hell out of it (i.e. Irving and Jenny from Sleepy Hollow). To me it's less of a matter of what others have to say. It's, "how do/would these characters be together?"

And guess what? You'll find other people who will like it. Turn tumblr off. It's not the end all be all. It ain't shit really.

PS--I'm a WOC too. I don't have tumblr. And I enjoy my niches. You should too.

[(Anonymous)]

Just be respectful and open to feedback from POC. As long as you're not constantly talking about the character's ~exotic mocha skin~ and making them talk like they're trapped in a minstrel show, you'll be fine.

[(Anonymous)]

Unless someone feels like picking on them, in which case they'll grab some arbitrary line from their fic, say it's racist to (for example) have the character talk the way he talks on the show, and get a good ol' dogpile going.

Don't act like that possibility isn't on the table.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, if you say literally anything at all in fandom that could happen to you? It isn't something exclusive to writing fic about POC and it's kind of weird to act like writing about people who aren't white is any more of a minefield than any other part of fandom.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Do you honestly think it's safer even if you don't? Does not having a badly written POC character in your novel make you invincible to all criticism? Have you not heard of books, tv shows or movies written by white people with an all-white cast who haven't faced any accusations of racism?

That possibility is always on the table, anon. Always.

[darkmanifest]

I admit I'm having trouble comprehending this, unless you only post fanfic on Tumblr, which even I wouldn't risk, and I'm not white. In my experience, Ao3 and ff.net are highly unlikely to question what race you are or dogpile your fic unless you turn it into a ham-handed PSA about race - like, I haven't seen anybody going around going HOW DARE YOU when they write about Stacker banging Herc, or Fury banging Hawkeye...mostly because those of us who like those characters are so grateful to get sexy fic about them at all that we'd be fools to criticize all but blatant racism.

[(Anonymous)]

Sounds familiar to me. Oh right It's the excuse that even writers themselves use when not including poc or gay characters in their movies. SO scared.