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Oh for fuck's sake

Being a doctor doesn't make him better than other people. He is not owed deference because of his education. Nobody is.

IDK, to me it's not about deference, just propriety. I don't see them as being better than me - I would honestly feel just as weird about my doctor calling me by my first name as I would about calling my doctor by his or her first name.

What would you rather them call you than your first name? Mr./Ms. Last Name?

Yes exactly.

ayrt

Hmmm. It's the opposite for me, I'd rather be called by my first name and would find someone calling me Ms. Last Name weird/overly formal. Interesting.

No one is saying it makes them better, but there are certain professions where I feel like using first names just isn't appropriate. Should students call teachers by their first names too? In some situations you need to be a bit more formal, IMO.

I get not calling doctors Dr. Whoever in a social setting, and I'm not insisting people use the title at all times. But if you're their patient, and you call their office to make an appointment, saying "I need to make an appointment with Bob" instead of "I need to make an appointment with Dr. Jones" (or hell, just "I need to make an appointment" if you have an issue with using titles) just seems inappropriate.

Should students call teachers by their first names too?

...this is a little telling.

Dude, in most situations the "student" is a kid. A teenager at the oldest. I don't think adults have to treat a doctor like The Adult.

In a college setting it'd be a bit weird for students to call the Professor Chad or whatever. But--that's just custom. I wouldn't consider it "inappropriate" if they were doing it politely, just weird. The best professor I ever had in undergrad insisted on being called just "Mr. _____," thinking "Dr" sounded like too much. He did have a phD, he just didn't flaunt it.

saying "I need to make an appointment with Bob" instead of "I need to make an appointment with Dr. Jones" (or hell, just "I need to make an appointment" if you have an issue with using titles) just seems inappropriate.

It is a bit, but only because there could be more than one Bob. "I need to make an appointment with Bob Jones" is perfectly appropriate.

Granted if Dr. Jones (or Prof. Jones) prefers to be called Dr or Prof, it's polite to call them that. We should call people what they want to be called. But again, that's BEING POLITE, not deference.

I'm not sure what it's telling of, exactly, other than that I was obviously taught different things on this issue than some other people that are commenting here.

I was thinking mainly in college. (Although to me it wouldn't make a difference if it was kids, because I wasn't raised that kids couldn't call adults by their first names...the only reason they don't do it with teachers is because they're teachers/in a position of authority.) If professors asked to be called by their first name, sure (and some of mine did). But just assuming that it's ok to call someone by their first name when they have a specific title is not proper.

In this office there's only the one doctor so it's not a matter of confusion. And actually, people sometimes do say "I need to make an appointment with Bob Jones" and that's fine. It's just using the first name only that's not appropriate.

You keep saying deference and I'm talking about respect. They're not exact synonyms. All I'm talking about is just basic respect and courtesy for other people. If someone has a title, you use it. It has nothing to do with thinking they're above you or anything. And if they would prefer to be called by their first name and don't want to use the title, that's fine. But using it should be the default, until you're told otherwise. That's just proper ettiquette.

Obviously there's a huge cultural divide in how I was raised and how some of the other people commenting here were. I think it's probably a regional thing. Where I live is weird in that it's in the south and in some ways really old-fashioned and traditional, but it's also a larger city so on other things it's more "modern" I guess. There are a couple people from the south commenting here saying different things than I am, but on other issues (mainly about whether you should call older people by their first names, it seems), so I still think that might be the case, especially since where I live there's the combination of the two different mindsets.

But whatever the reasoning, it's been really interesting to see the differences in how other people think/what they were taught.

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