[ SECRET POST #2867 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2867 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Is anyone here willing to admit

[(Anonymous)]

I like what kazerad has to say about it: http://kazerad.tumblr.com/tagged/GamerGate

I don't care about video games enough to get involved, but I think reducing the whole thing to social justice versus basement dwellers is pretty unfortunate and indicative of how future discussions online will go about more important topics.

Re: Is anyone here willing to admit

[(Anonymous)]

If someone wants to argue that the whole affair can be reduced into two basically separate things - one controversy about harassment and misogyny, and another about journalistic ethics and collusion - I think there's a lot of truth to that.

However, to me, anyone who is capable of coming to that conclusion is almost inevitably forced to come down on the anti-Gamergate side, because preventing harassment and misogyny is just intrinsically more important than fighting against journalistic ethics and collusion, and because the tactics and actions of the Gamergate movement are far from the most effective imaginable if they are interested in fighting journalistic collusion, and in fact make it hard to believe that they are a movement whose main issue really has to do with journalistic integrity in general, rather than the very specific subset of journalistic integrity having to do with issues concerning women. The Gamergate movement just has not acted in the way that you would expect a movement principally concerned with journalistic ethics to act.

Re: Is anyone here willing to admit

[(Anonymous)]

It's generous to call it a movement. Every things got some assholes in it, but Gamgergate's reached out to a population with a thriving asshole community and the usual numbers are heavily skewed. And assholes in places like 4chan and 8chan are just looking for excuses to be, so lo and behold...

Re: Is anyone here willing to admit

[chardmonster]

Sure, I follow that. But then why associate yourself with gamergate? You can care about ethics without using gamergate to do it.

Re: Is anyone here willing to admit

[(Anonymous)]

Basically, this.

As an outside observer, looking at the way self-professed "gamergaters" act, and the arguments they make, it is very hard to believe that they are fighting for any real "movement" or "cause" beyond... idk, a vague hatred of women and anyone else they perceive as taking their games away from them.

Re: Is anyone here willing to admit

[chardmonster]

There are decent people making excuses for being involved. But if they're willing to associate themselves with horrible /pol/ type people to do it, they're idiots at best, liars most likely.

They aren't trying to start a new tag or properly distance themselves from the sexists and racists and homophobes. They are willing to throw people like me under the bus so games they like get better reviews. I don't give a shit what Khazerad tells his fans to keep them clicking.