[ SECRET POST #2867 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2867 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Nu trek rides on the coattails of it's predecessor. News at 11. The same goes for the shitty slash pairing, although now spirk has become entirely baseless and transparent.

[(Anonymous)]

Spirk was baseless in TOS too though. I mean, everything I hear about it is "look how CLOSE they are!", as if men can't have deep, meaningful friendships without having to be fucking.

[(Anonymous)]

Da

It's not baseless in TOS but at the same time you don't have much of a choice there either. Lol! Only men were allowed to be important and have meaningful relationships. The stuff from the 60s-70s is always recognizable for those narrative elements. Their dynamic was no doubt and in large part the result of the story having one lead that was Kirk. Spock would be his best friend because he was popular as the alien but yeah, the only way to get screentime was having some connection with the main guy and they had most of the interactions.

[(Anonymous)]

This is still rather true today, though. Generally speaking, characters are only as important to the story in terms of how they relate to the main character. And it depends on the writing as well.

Spock in TOS had more development than Kirk in some areas -- we got to meet his parents for example and learn a great deal more about his childhood than we did with Kirk.

[(Anonymous)]

You sound a whole heck of a lot like that one Spock/Uhura shipper that has a Beatles' song in her name. I hope you're not because she's a real hypocrite but you have a very similar writing style.

Sorry if you're not, I was just faintly reminded.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't mean their friendship was baseless, just that I never saw a base for a romantic/sexual relationship. Even knowing homosexuality didn't exist in the 60s I've never seen it.

More power to the ones who wanna ship it though.

[(Anonymous)]

What you mean homosexuality didn't exist?
It existed... If you mean it wasn't featured on tv, yeah. I don't even think queer baiting existed. Not like today, at least.

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly, though, if one of them were a woman, it would have been a really mainstream pairing and I bet they would have gotten together. And I'll certainly say that, while not explicitly romantic, Kirk and Spock do show more care and intimacy towards one another than a lot of other actual canon couples I've seen.

But…yeah…even then, they're not canon. Wouldn't say they're baseless though.

[(Anonymous)]

ITA about the bias for m/f relationships
To be fair though, some of that is sexism too because people of the same sex and men especially can love each other and be just friends (I hate saying 'just friends' so much ) without getting sexualized. A female character can't be friends with the main male character without the inevitable unresolved sexual tension.
So, it's a bit of both. Most of the writers are heterosexual men and it shows.