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Comments

Re: Blown out the water by Spock/Uhura!

[(Anonymous)]

They don't need each other. Don't know where I said they did. But the films show how they complement each other and make each other better. They clearly have to learn to temper their first impressions and see what the other has to offer (since their world views and approaches are different) but it's not surprising that they see something valuable and worth embracing in each other.

Spock Prime convinced Spock to stay on the Enterprise. However, Kirk is the one who taught him that the rules aren't everything (when he goes to save him) and that you need to play on your enemies weaknesses (when he uses the torpedoes against Harrison). Similarly, Spock taught Kirk about taking responsibility and to be able to set aside his emotion and see the morality/immorality of his actions.

That is no small thing and I can definitely see how it brings them closer together. They influence each other deeply.

That they recognize what the other would have done (correctly) at the end of the film is a testament to that.

In both their cases, I wouldn't mind more development, but I can certainly say that I think they're far more developed than any of the other characters.

At very least, the Kirk and Spock relationship has an outline to go by. Which is more than I can say for much of anything else in the reboots, unfortunately.

Re: Blown out the water by Spock/Uhura!

[(Anonymous)]

They don't need each other. Don't know where I said they did. But the films show how they complement each other and make each other better.

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Complement each other doesn't mean, in a way, they need each other? They just don't.
Like in the last movie I don't get why Spock is not the captain when he is so better and more competent anyway but that's me.
Kirk can have better friends in McCoy, Scotty, Uhura or Pike, his mentor. He has nothing to do with Spock and Spock has nothing to do with him.
To say that they make each other better too....Kirk seems to bring the worst in him, actually, when he doesn't look like Sylar he's reduced to a parody of himself just to pay homage to a scene that these characters haven't earned one bit. He's out of character.
It seems irony that you claim they make each other better when some of their worst moments in the movies where they act as an immature ass is the scenes they have with each other.
They should have asked for a transfer.

Re: Blown out the water by Spock/Uhura!

[(Anonymous)]

Complement does not mean "need" -- a color can can be complemented by another color and look nicer as a result. That doesn't mean it needs that color. This is the definition I am using: "add to (something) in a way that enhances or improves it."

So, yes, I think Spock and Kirk complement each other. I've given examples that, I think, demonstrate this.

As for who is captain, I agree that is a mess. But It doesn't affect how I see Kirk and Spock's relationship.

And of course Kirk can be friends with others. However I find that, in Star Trek Into Darkness, the gradual closeness he develops with Spock and how they come to love and respect each other really shines. That's simply my opinion.

From what I can tell, Kirk and Spock bring out the best in one another and it works precisely because they can fall back and rely on the writing in TOS.