[ SECRET POST #2867 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2867 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

As for deleted scenes -- they aren't in the film so, unfortunately, they can't be judged in the context of the film. The filmmakers clearly thought them contradictory/unimportant so I can't include them. We have no idea how they would be intercut in the film and what would be different if they were included. It's also an alternative take of a scene (instead of one that was removed for running time) which means it's obviously going to contradict aspects in the final film.

"Spock is all business-like in the scene when Kirk and Khan space jump from the Enterprise to the Vengeance too."

No he isn't. He follows Kirk and is passionate. Note how he GRABS Kirk's shoulder (physical contact is a HUGE deal for Vulcans) and states "I cannot allow you to do this!" with real emotion in his voice. It isn't until Kirk confesses that he has no idea what he's supposed to do and that the ship needs Spock more than him in the chair that Spock lets him go.

And, ummm…of course it matters if it's intimate to me or not. It's how I see the movie that matters TO ME. He goes and stands next to her. So? Why should I consider that more intimate than, say, when he grabs Kirk's shoulder right before Kirk goes to make the jump?

As for Spock not being human -- it's well established that he frequently loses his cool when the people he loves are in danger. In TOS, he freaks out when Kirk confronts the Horta and after Jim comes back in Amok Time. In the new films, he freaks out for his mother and Kirk. That's pretty consistent.

I don't think I'm asking for much to see some kind of strong reaction from him when his girlfriend is in danger.

I didn't say he was happy. He doesn't look happy. But he looks much more unfazed and in control of himself compared to when his mother or Kirk was in danger/hurt.

If you are satisfied with that or interpret it differently, then good for you. I am not. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

[(Anonymous)]

That you are a spirk fan is obvious, but you're taking this petty shipper war too seriously now. Your ranting all over the thread just reads like a defensive shipper seeking validation.
It's really sad that trek is now reduced to a competition between Kirk and Uhura for the prize of Spock's affection. Feels like kindergarten.

You were supposed to be better star trek fandom.

[(Anonymous)]

Um…okay?

I'm just stating my opinion, dude. I've said it again and again that I don't demand anyone to agree with me and that everyone's entitled to their own opinion and to interpret the films how they see fit. It's great that people can get different things out of film.

We disagree on the writing -- you like Spock/Uhura and dislike the Kirk and Spock friendship while I'm the opposite. And that's fine. You don't need to be "wrong" for me to be "right" and I don't need to be "wrong" for you to be "right." It's a film -- a piece of art -- which means our interpretation of it is subjective.

I don't see why discussing how I interpret the films and the aspects I like and don't like about it is "petty." But if that's what you believe then go ahead.

I haven't called you names or attacked your character or made suggestions about your motivations or insulted you so I truly don't understand why you feel as though I'm doing something "wrong" for writing out my opinion.

Spock, Uhura, and Kirk aren't real and I think it's perfectly fair game to discuss where the writing worked and where it fell short for me.