[ SECRET POST #2868 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2868 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[fscom]

05. http://i.imgur.com/hkjeZBZ.png

[(Anonymous)]

I think people use that phrase for people who continue watching a thing they don't like (hate watching).

[kallanda_lee]

That's always how I interpreted it, too.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, if it goes on for more than three episodes, or two books or two films (or two performances of stage plays), in a row and you are still watching then the hatewatching disclaimer applies. Just stop watching it. If it is a one or two off in terms of badness then you are as entitled as any other customer to complain about badness being served to you. I was unhappy, majorly, with last episode of Doctor Who but really happy with a lot of the season so I'm fine complaining about it. The SJW anti-moffs, they are just hatewatching and should shut up and ship off. If the Kringlemas Episode and next season opener are just as upsetting, then I should do the same.

[(Anonymous)]

I thought everyone hated Moffat.

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt

not by any means. there's still a significant portion of fandom that likes him.

and even among the people who dislike him, there's differences of opinion, not everyone is hardcore MOFFAT MUST DIE shit

[(Anonymous)]

So where is the line drawn for criticism of Moffat?

[arcadiaego]

The MOFFAT MUST DIE team are just so loud it's very very difficult to find any Who meta outside of the Classic fandom now I find.

[(Anonymous)]

Although the portion of fandom that hates him has changed very recently. Now it is the rabid SJWs praising him, and the normal people are very upset with him.

[dreemyweird]

Hatewatching may be intentional, though, and I see nothing wrong with the idea as such. Nor with discussing how bad the stuff you're watching is. It all depends on the context and on how you treat the process.

Like, yes, no one forced me to watch, but maybe I myself sat down and deliberately watched this bad thing and enjoyed the fact that it was bad and that I disliked it. Disliking a work=/=disliking the process of watching/reading it.

[(Anonymous)]

Hate-watching only really tends to be acceptable if you're also hate-watching too. I haven't come across too many people who are live and let live about it when it's people pissing over something they happen to be enjoying, especially if those people constantly show up.

[(Anonymous)]

You just have to look at the livejournal Doctor Who group. A couple of years ago it was full of people who loved the show. Then a couple of very dedicated hatewatchers showed up, and they drove out pretty much anyone that didn't hatewatch it because the mods simply would not slap them down. These days it is even deader than most of lj.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, that sounds like an excellent use of your time, so... *slow clap*

OP

[(Anonymous)]

It's a good way to let off frustration about something that should have been so much better than it was.

[dreemyweird]

I have to second this. Honestly, I'm not sure if people who say this realize that what they are proposing is a space where everyone watches what they like and doesn't watch the things they dislike and where, as a consequence, the only existing form of criticism is mild concrit.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh what a terrible world that would be! No death threats to creator, no constant flaming the fans. What horror is this where criticism does not include irrational rage-fueled rants that purposefully misinterpret every single word of the source material.

Woe!

[(Anonymous)]

you can have serious and intense criticism that doesn't do any of those things

the logical course is not 'don't criticize anything', it's 'don't be an insane person who issues death threats to creators or w/e'

[(Anonymous)]

DA

What you're talking about isn't criticism, though, it's pure and simple batshit insanity and the people who behave that way would behave that way anyway.

[solticisekf]

Well, there's an opinion that if you didn't like something no need to rain on other people's excitement.

Personally I don't like reading how others don't like my ship or fandom but enjoy complaining about things myself. It's a double standard, that's what it is.😆

[beverlykatz]

Agreed. There's this obnoxious fandom tendency to dub works Good or Bad, and defend Good works past all point of reason. Like, okay, it's cool that you like this, but I thought it sucked and I want to talk about it. I'm not going to shut up or pretend I liked it just to make it easier for you to surround yourself with identical opinions.

(Then again, I'm guilty of this sometimes; there are some shows that hold a sacred place in my mind, and I try to ignore criticisms because shhhh this thing is so good, let me love it.)

[(Anonymous)]

GHAAAAAA EYESQUICK :( :(

[arcadiaego]

Yeahhhh I didn't really want to see this image.