[ SECRET POST #2868 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2868 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 075 secrets from Secret Submission Post #410.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Why do you feel you're owed work done for free?

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

...are you new to fandom or something? Quite apart from the little technicality that it's illegal for fanartists and fanwriters to profit from their fanworks (regardless of how much it's ignored or tacitly allowed, still not legal), the entire tenet of fanwork is based on free content and not profiting from said work. The entire tenet of fandom is based on love for the source and a respect for its autonomy.

And in this case, it's extra shitty because the author apparently began the work under those tenets and has since decided to cash in on both the source material AND their readers.

[(Anonymous)]

If you oppose fanfic and fanart both equally, then I can respect that.

I can't respect condemning one or the other.

A fic stops updating. You wonder why, and maybe you find out that the author moved on to a different fandom or a different fic or just disappears. What's your options then, pestering with reviews to update? The author doesn't owe you updates. The authors of fic owe nobody anything, because they're doing it for free and because they like writing or attention. When they leave off writing a fic, they still don't owe you anything. There's no future chapter being held above your head, already written and ready, and even if it was, it's still not owed you. You have no right to it.

If the chance to get that fic continued is there, somebody (not you, apparently) might choose to take it in order to get the abandoned fic/fandom written. I've seen readers offer return art, return fic, personal favors, and cheerleading, all to get an abandoned fic continued. Money, in YOUR eyes, is the dividing line between okay and wrong.

[(Anonymous)]

The only one talking about 'owing' anything here is you. I suspect you're the same person making similar and equally misinformed arguments on the other fanfic secret, which makes me think you're taking both of these things rather personally.

For the record yes, I disagree with ALL forms of fanwork commission, and would neither offer nor pay for it in any shape or form.

The person OP's talking about has made the decision to charge for future updates, there's no mention of whether or not the fic would have been updated anyway if the author hadn't seen a potential to cash in on their readers in this way. That's what people have an issue with.

And yes, actual RL money IS a huge dividing line, not only on the legality side of things (no one considers e.g. art/fic exchange as being 'payment' in a monetary sense) and on the ethical sense of what fanworks are, i.e. labors of love. When you start attaching monetary values to these things and treating them as commodities, then that completely goes against what fandom has always been. Not only that but it runs the risk of drawing the attention of TPTB, who could go either down the route of clamping down hard on fanwork and fansites, or commodify it themselves. Either way it's the rest of us that lose out.

[(Anonymous)]

I got to your "ethical sense of what fanworks are" and LOLed away.

[(Anonymous)]

Because it's easier to do than respond to what they're saying.

[(Anonymous)]

In a sense, yeah. I've gone through too many cycles of arguing the same thing to bother putting effort into one more argument with someone like this. The person's already said they don't support commissioned fanart or fanfic, so the argument's pointless. At least they refuse to support both equally.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

But that depends on your definition of "support."

I review and comment and reblog and leave writers and artists praise and gratitude for their work. I promote the stuff I love. I consider myself as supporting the writers and artists I enjoy, because the agreement you enter into when it comes to fanwork is that it's not-for-profit. To do so takes it out of the realm of what a lot of people consider the purpose of fanwork. YMMV.

I support the original source that allows them (and me) to create those works with RL cash, but if that became fandom's currency I'd be out the door in a second.