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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-11-09 04:20 pm

[ SECRET POST #2868 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2868 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-11-10 07:49 am (UTC)(link)
"Eventually they will have to pander to paying customers, because these people will be paying for a product and have certain expectations." That whole line of reason on how it would lead to failure depends on how the commission is done. I would hope anyone offering commissions would think through how to offer them.

"you take your readership hostage in a sense" How is this hostage? Explain to me how an author can take their own writing hostage by not sharing it.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-10 08:07 am (UTC)(link)
It's not there own writing though really. It's fan fiction and by all means someone elses work. I don't care how AU it is, it's still someone else characterization and to a point world they are using. So no matter how you want to fight it, it's not really their work to start with.

Fan fiction is not something to make profit on.

It'd be like someone on tumblr becoming popular and then refusing to make any gifs until they got paid. They aren't the actors, or the show, or the animators. It's a fan work meant for enjoyment.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-10 08:13 am (UTC)(link)
Go look at the cookies metaphor below.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-10 08:32 am (UTC)(link)
The problem with your cookie metephor is that the cookie is just fucking cookie and does not equate to what we are speaking of. We are speaking about taking someone elses work as your own and getting paid for it. It really doesn't matter who wants the cookie/fanfiction at all. If someones selling it it's shady as fuck, period.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-10 08:50 am (UTC)(link)
Do you feel that way about fanart?

(Anonymous) 2014-11-10 08:53 am (UTC)(link)
Pretty much. I only bought it a few times when I was much younger, but regret it now.

But I feel like it gets more of a free pass because creators of works generally find it ok, compared to fanfiction. I also feel like with FF you're limited to how original you can make it, and it's very different with fanart.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-10 08:10 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

But that's just it, it's not that they're not sharing, they're conditionally sharing based on whether people pay them for it or not. They're perfectly willing to share if their conditions are met.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-10 01:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I think you've gotta stop thinking of this in terms of commissions and fanfiction and look at it from a business perspective.

Giving someone part of a product for one price, and then saying that she can't get the rest of the product unless she pays more (despite the original agreement involving only the initial price), is not good business practice. In the real world, with a real product, not only would customers be pissed, but that business could face legal trouble.

Someone starting a fanwork for one price (in this case, for free), and then changing the pricing after the fact, is more analogous to that than to cookies.