[ SECRET POST #2870 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2870 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[X-Files]


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(Doctor Who/Torchwood)


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(Benedict Cumberbatch)


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[Star Trek]


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09.
[Star Trek Voyager, "Macrocosm"]


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10.
[Great British Bake Off series 4, Ruby Tandoh]


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11.
[How to Get Away with Murder]


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12.
[Far Cry 3]


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[Krazy Kat & Ignatz Mouse]











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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Wasn't the entire main cast of Torchwood bisexual? I haven't seen Doctor Who at all, but saw the first couple seasons of Torchwood. I think each of the main group was written to be bisexual and they're all different in how they view relationships.

And actually despite being bisexual, Jack only seemed to go for guys in the Torchwood as far as I remember, except for obvious sexual tension with the main girl...

[(Anonymous)]

What? Not at all true.

There's the tension you speak of with that female character, but there's also his past lover who is now an old woman. He also flirts with a lot of aliens.

[(Anonymous)]

I haven't seen the show in a long time, and only saw the first few seasons, and haven't seen Doctor Who. But I honestly only remember him actually getting with guys. If there was a female love interest (besides the main character) it apparently didn't make an impression on me.

[(Anonymous)]

We were intoduced to a woman he loved and lost during WW2 in the fairy episode (Estelle). We saw Jack's wedding Edwardian wedding photograph. And if you accept post season two, he had a daughter with a woman during the early '70s or maybe it was the late '60s.

[(Anonymous)]

Likely the seventies given his grandson's young age in Children of Earth.

[(Anonymous)]

You are right in that we only ever see him in sex scenes with other men, but the other anon is right that there are female love interests form the past discussed in the show, and one is a character in one of the episodes.

[kallanda_lee]

I think Owen and Rhys weren't. And Gwen is questionable because she only kissed a girl under alien influence. She seems more like the kind of person who's cool with it, but doesn't really swing that way. I think Jack Ianto and Tosh were, up to some point.

[(Anonymous)]

Rhys, no. Owen ambiguous because it wasn't entirely clear that one time what he was going to do with the couple he alien roofied.

[kallanda_lee]

Fair enough, but iirc he never really did anything on-screen that I gave indication of it (doesn't mean he couldn't be, just that he wasn't specifically portrayed as such).

Though to be fair it's been a couple of years since I saw it.

[(Anonymous)]

Gwen also no. She just kisseda girl because it was edgy. (Also alien influence.) Tosh was a yes though. In fact of all the main characters she was the one with the most doomed romances - Owen, Tommy Brockless, Mary the heart eating alien.

[(Anonymous)]

There was that, er, doubiously consentual threesome in the pilot and that guy in Combat.

*Not trying to start Owen wank, I swear!*

[kallanda_lee]

Sounds like I should rewatch, I still have the first season on DVD somewhere....

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I kind of operated under the assumption that Owen was bi, too. Not to mention he was obviously a little in love with Jack.

[rivulet027]

Oh wow I didn't know Noel Clarke wrote that epi!

[(Anonymous)]

Moffat claimed they were all bisexual but didn't succeed in showing it on screen. They could all be bisexual, but gwen only kisses a sex alien possessing a female body under their influence to try and get it out of their body, her fiancé never showed any interest in men, Owen and Tosh did have same sex encounters on the show, but one experience doesn't make one bisexual. At least Jack and the other dude we're both shown to like women and ended up in a relationship (even if the other dudes self identification depends on the writer. Bisexual or straight dude for who Jack is his 'that one guy', or straight/bi guy who realised he was plain gay once he got involved with Jack? Take your pick).

[(Anonymous)]

This demonstrates the problem with trying to show bi characters on TV: if they obviously show attraction to people of more than one sex, then they are dismissed as a bi stereotype, but if they don't, then they are dismissed because monosexual is automatically the default and "one experience doesn't make one bisexual."

[(Anonymous)]

"but one experience doesn't make one bisexual"
...lolwut?

[(Anonymous)]

I'm sorry, but no. Word of God says they are bisexual - which, granted, doesn't always mean much if you don't show it - but each one is also shown in the series having same-sex experiences. They are all bisexual, end of story.

[(Anonymous)]

Do you mean RTD? Because Torchwood was RTD's show, not Moffat's.

[(Anonymous)]

Owen and Tosh were. Ianto is questionable depending on which season you're in. He has a line in Children of Earth where his sister asks him if he likes men and he says it's just Jack or something along those lines. Jack was pan/omnisexual. Gwen was straight. The one time she showed any interest in a woman was when she was under the influence of alien pheromones. Rhys was straight, as far as we knew.

We met Jack's one-time wife but that was a one-off and we didn't see them together back in the day so we just knew they'd been married and he loved her. We also learned that Jack has a daughter and I believe it was mentioned that her mother was a member of Torchwood at some point. So they established that Jack had previous relationships with women but all of his present-day relationships were with men.