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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-11-12 06:54 pm

[ SECRET POST #2871 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2871 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-11-13 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
Even over Spock's Brain and the Hippie episode?

(Anonymous) 2014-11-13 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
This was my first thought. Or space nazis.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-13 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
Space Nazis actually had kind of a story point to it though.
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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2014-11-13 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
It wasn't even particularly ridiculous, aside from the hamhandedness of the names (Zeon, Isak, Abrom...way to underestimate your audience's ability to get the point, guys).

Now, Let That Be Your Last Battlefield...that was ridiculous despite the 'Some Anvils Need to be Dropped' aspect.
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(Anonymous) 2014-11-13 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
Nnnnnnnnnnnot ridiculous given the time it was set in; they were still trying to desegregate and do away with the Jim Crow laws in the US South at the time the episode aired. Showing the confusion and then the horror on the multicultural crew's faces was absolutely a big Zing! that needed to zung,IMO. Same with "Balance of Terror" tbph, watching it today, it looks like the bigotry against Spock is soooooo heavyhanded, but in sad, actual fact,at the time, it was not.
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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2014-11-13 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
Again, the fact that the anvil needed to be dropped does not change that it was overacted, overdirected, and in every conceivable way, ridiculous.

Hammy acting, overuse of closeups and dutch angles does nothing to serve the the racial lesson it was trying to teach.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-13 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but the Earth parallels got rather ridiculous (prohibition, Roman empire, Nazis, Indians...).

(Anonymous) 2014-11-13 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
They had a small costume budget!!

(Anonymous) 2014-11-13 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
There was that Lazarus one too, where a guy has to fight in a photonegative forever.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-13 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
oh, that one was so fucking silly.
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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2014-11-13 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
Only two of the 'parallel' episodes were actually parallels - Bread and Circuses (the one with the alien Roman Empire) and The Omega Glory (with Americans and Communist Chinese degenerated into tribal societies after their version of the cold war turned hot).

The gangster and Nazi worlds were specifically altered by encounters with Earth culture (the Iotians based their culture on information in a book left by a Federation ship, the Ekosians were deliberately made into Nazis by a Federation officer), and the Native Americans actually were Native Americans moved to a distant planet by an alien species.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-13 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
What about Miri? The one where we got a nice big shot of the North American continent right up there on the viewscreen?
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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2014-11-13 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Oops, forgot that one.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-13 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
No CGI budget to create alternate continents back then I'd imagine.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-13 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
They could have at least flipped it upside-down or something.
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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2014-11-13 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
Looking up screenshots, they turned it sideways. Maybe that was just the remaster, though.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-13 01:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Just the remaster.

This is how it showed up first time.
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Miri_%28episode%29?file=Miri%27s_North_America_on_screen.jpg
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[personal profile] asecretchord 2014-11-13 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
CGI budget? Please tell me you're joking. Computer generated imagery? In the mid 1960's? There was no CGI budget because there was no CGI. Star Trek was ridiculously underfunded, even when it was in its first two seasons. By the third season, they were trying to produce episodes for about $150K per. Think about that. $150,000 PER EPISODE. They were lucky to have enough money to purchase watercolor paint!

(Anonymous) 2014-11-13 03:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Now retconned as Actually Earth, but from another dimension (albeit in the books).
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[personal profile] quantumreality 2014-11-13 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
I especially liked the Omega Glory, with Kirk making the point that the words of the Constitution, which had been almost forgotten by the Yangs, needed to apply to "everyone". That's a pretty forward-thinking expression of the importance of protecting everybody's rights in this post-9/11 day and age.
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2014-11-13 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
I really found the premise of "A Piece of the Action" to one of the most fascinating ideas ever. I loved it so much and just want all the fics fleshing that society's history out (And Kirk looked like he had SO much pretending to be a gangster it was adorable as fuck.)

(Anonymous) 2014-11-13 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
I loved the scene where Kirk tried to drive with a stick shift. Hysterical.

It's also why I don't tolerate reboot Kirk much. Too damn precocious with motor vehicles, so he's just not as funny.
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[personal profile] otakugal15 2014-11-13 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I am one of the few who liked Spock's Brain. For the mere fact that it feeds my TOS!Era Spock/Kirk feels. Kirk only cared about Spock that ENTIRE episode.

I HATE Nu!Kirk/Spock, but TOS? I'm all for it.