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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-11-12 06:54 pm

[ SECRET POST #2871 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2871 ⌋

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kallanda_lee: (Default)

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-11-13 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
I honestly don't get how you can even get through the first season thinking she's a nice person.

The only way I could see her being a favourite is if you like villains.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-13 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't start watching until it was well into season 2. And I had friends who were fans of her. So I was colored by being told about her redemption.

Mostly, though, I was colored by the adoption angle of season 1. My younger brother was adopted, so I felt really uncomfortable with the blood=real family angle of season 1. On this time around, though, I've realized that Regina was shitty and abusive and however badly that angle was handled, she's still a bad parent.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-11-13 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I sort of hate how the adoption part was played out.

I mean, from the perspective of S1 Emma, who does not believe Henry's story first, it's absolutely nuts that she just waltzes in and undermines Regina's authority and parenting after Henry had been her son all his life.

(I mean, WE know she's an Evil Queen, but Emma doesn't, and it's really handled poorly if you assume it would be a real life setting).

But the thing is, both regarding her parenting with Henry and her own tragic backstory: it can make your actions a bit come understandable, but that doesn't mean that you still aren't a shitty person.

Because, you know, some people have bad shit happen to them without turning murderous...

(Anonymous) 2014-11-13 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
They way they handled it post S1 only reinforced the blood is everything and adoptive parents are inherently bad message.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-13 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
I disagree. They show three adoptive relationships in a positive light (Geppetto/ Pinocchio, Spinsters/ Rumplestiltskin, and George/ James). The only negative adoptive relationship is Regina/ Henry. That's only natural since Regina is- you know- EVIL.

On the other hand, most of the biological parents with the exception of Charming, Emma, Eva and Leopold, Colette, and Charming's mom, really really suck.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-13 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
No, no, I really disagree.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-13 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
I tend to like villains. They always have a better backstory then the good guys and are more interesting. I am the type of person who roots for the monster during a horror movie so I guess that explains why I like her.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-11-13 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, I get liking villains.

I just don't get not seeing them as vllains when they clearly are - if that makes sense?

But the way I read the secret OP didn't see her as such until he changed perspective and can't unsee it now. And that seems to imply their flist see Regina that way as well. Which I find weird and frankly a bit disconcerting.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-13 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
I saw her as a villain, just as a redeemable and reformed one. I downplayed her actions in my mind. Now, while I don't think that redemption is impossible, I don't think she (or any of the "reformed" villains on the show) has earned it yet.