[ SECRET POST #2871 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2871 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[kamino_neko]

I think there was one where they spent the last 10 minutes talking up the US constitution or something.

The Omega Glory. Where the aliens were literally American (Yangs) and Communist Chinese (Kohms), and the Constitution was a holy document for the Yangs.

[(Anonymous)]

Nayt

I remember the Yangs had an actual American flag with 50 stars and everything. Meanwhile, they lived in caves and wore muppet pelts...

[kamino_neko]

Yeah, The Omega Glory was anything but a subtle episode.

It beats out Spock's Brain, The Way to Eden, Turnabout Intruder and other infamously bad episodes for the #1 position on my personal 'terrible episode' list by a pretty large margin as a result.

[solarbird]

That one kind of makes me cry because it is really quite good until that happens.

Seriously, try to forget the ending, and the parts before that? Pretty cool. Another ship! A plague! A class of primitive civilisations! Prime directive in a serious business way! Crazy slaughter Captain! It's awesome.

And then... yeah.

I have been told by someone who knows this stuff that it's one of Gene Roddenberry's favourite episodes. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WHY

[(Anonymous)]

lol at muppet pelts

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ayrt

Yes! I knew it was something like that. I don't know why that ep is so ridiculous to me, considering other eps have sillier premises/outfits/scenery/whatever. I think it's because it takes itself so seriously. Usually when the show is silly, it knows? This was so freaking dramatic and if I recall correctly Kirk's speech was so long (and didn't really make much sense either).

[(Anonymous)]

Thing is, the show made an absolutely subversive point, in that the Yangs treated the US Constitution as a holy document that literally meant nothing but empty ritualistic words ...as TOS so often did, it was Getting Crap Past the Radar. Telling the audience that what they were beginning to regard as dull words that meant nothing, could lead to the downfall of civilization. The other point is, there were (and are) actual holy books that people treat just as cavalierly when they would be better served to understand and practice what the holy books say.

If TOS had used a direct analogy with the Christian Bible, however, they would have all been burned at the stake.

[kamino_neko]

That's the lesson they seemed to be trying to teach, but that's not the lesson they taught, because it has no actual connection to the story.

They weren't echoing the words of the Constitution. They were spouting nonsense that, despite the writers' assurances, bore exactly no resemblance to the Preamble of the Constitution.

What happened is they had completely forgotten the Constitution, and everything got better when an American showed up and gave it to them.

Which is a lot more jingoistic than it is subversive.

[asecretchord]

Honest question: did the idea of nation-states exist at the time of the Federation of Planets? I thought Earth was united at that point so Kirk would not have considered himself to be an American, but would have studied the US Constitution as a part of Earth history.

[kamino_neko]

Officially, no, but it's pretty clear both in TOS and TNG (less so in DS9 and Voyager) that despite an officially united Earth (the Federation only admits united planets), the pre-unity states exist in some form or another - United Earth is probably more or less like the European Union. (The US, France, the not-currently-real-world extant United States of Africa and African Confederation have all been mentioned either in-show or in official supplementary material.)