[ SECRET POST #2871 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2871 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Thing is, the show made an absolutely subversive point, in that the Yangs treated the US Constitution as a holy document that literally meant nothing but empty ritualistic words ...as TOS so often did, it was Getting Crap Past the Radar. Telling the audience that what they were beginning to regard as dull words that meant nothing, could lead to the downfall of civilization. The other point is, there were (and are) actual holy books that people treat just as cavalierly when they would be better served to understand and practice what the holy books say.

If TOS had used a direct analogy with the Christian Bible, however, they would have all been burned at the stake.

[kamino_neko]

That's the lesson they seemed to be trying to teach, but that's not the lesson they taught, because it has no actual connection to the story.

They weren't echoing the words of the Constitution. They were spouting nonsense that, despite the writers' assurances, bore exactly no resemblance to the Preamble of the Constitution.

What happened is they had completely forgotten the Constitution, and everything got better when an American showed up and gave it to them.

Which is a lot more jingoistic than it is subversive.

[asecretchord]

Honest question: did the idea of nation-states exist at the time of the Federation of Planets? I thought Earth was united at that point so Kirk would not have considered himself to be an American, but would have studied the US Constitution as a part of Earth history.

[kamino_neko]

Officially, no, but it's pretty clear both in TOS and TNG (less so in DS9 and Voyager) that despite an officially united Earth (the Federation only admits united planets), the pre-unity states exist in some form or another - United Earth is probably more or less like the European Union. (The US, France, the not-currently-real-world extant United States of Africa and African Confederation have all been mentioned either in-show or in official supplementary material.)