[ SECRET POST #2871 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2871 ⌋

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Comments

[ninety6tears]

I love her, but you have to be able to apply an illogically fantastical bullshit code of ethics to enjoy this show in general. For me it's all set within a fable about how it's possible for people to change, but just as there's magic and monsters, the scope of possible redemption is kind of allegorically larger than life too.

[(Anonymous)]

The problem with Regina's redemption arc isn't so much its possibility - within the fairytale framework, it's certainly possible - it's whether or not she's even really begun to earn it. She still sees herself as a victim most of the time, and doesn't really acknowledge that she's the architect of a lot of her own misery, let alone that she seriously hurt a hell of a lot of people and was inarguably wrong for it.

She can be an interesting character without making that acknowledgment, but she can't really be redeemed without it, and the show trying to tell us otherwise is getting really grating.

[ninety6tears]

I'm not sure we're supposed to believe it's earned yet, though I should probably point out I haven't watched any S4. But it seems to me she never does stop running into people who have reason to still hate her and nobody's portrayed as in the wrong for continuing to distrust her. I would like to see her acknowledge the beds she's made more often but her arc is probably incomplete at this point and I think it would feel too easy if she was any good at being good from the start.

[(Anonymous)]

S4 is pushing the whole "poor Regina" angle hard, to the point of nonsensical storytelling wrt other characters' reactions to her.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I generally actually don't hate Regina, but I had a hard time with her yelling at Emma that Emma had ruined her life, without ever once for a second stopping to think about all the ways she's ruined Emma's life. And Emma just stands there and takes it. It's like "wow, are we supposed to be feeling sorry for Regina here? Because I'm really really not."