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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-11-14 06:56 pm

[ SECRET POST #2873 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2873 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-11-15 01:09 pm (UTC)(link)
The problem I have with this research is that it doesn't seem to take into account the sociocultural factors that play into Western sexuality. In cultural settings where women are viewed as sexual aggressors (and where boys and girls are taught their entire lives to view women as sexual aggressors), men appear to have much lower sex drives than women and lose sexual interest over the course of long-term relationships.

And this is also why I have problems with how so many people approach the topic in general. They tend to oversimplify it.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-15 01:25 pm (UTC)(link)
And what cultural setting is that some primitive tribe almost extinct? No thanks, as a straight woman I don't want that. I want to be chased, I don't care for doing the chasing.

Also "Western sexuality" lol, yaoi comes from Japan and it's got nothing of western sexuality and it's just what the article describes.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-11-15 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
what does this have to do with who does the chasing? (at least, I've always heard that term used in terms of dating, not sex...)

(Anonymous) 2014-11-15 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
It's also used for sex.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-11-16 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
ok. well, as another straight woman I really do not want to just be "chased" without ever expressing my own desire.

And maybe that's not what you meant to imply with your comment, and we certainly don't have a culture of "women being sexual aggressors" by any means, but Western sexuality isn't so simple as "man wants woman, woman lets him have her". That may be what the media often portrays, but reality is more nuanced - there are a variety of women and men who want different sexual dynamics.
Edited 2014-11-16 02:06 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2014-11-16 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
That's fine? What's not fine harassing authors for writing out their fantasy the way they like it, which is something I've seen happen too often.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-11-16 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
I haven't seen that, but I have seen guys say "it wasn't really rape because she wanted it!" in response to real life rapes. :/

Nobody should be harassed for writing tropes they want. But I do think it's important to handle some things the right way and definitely to label them the right way. Some people like to write fucked-up stuff, and that's fine, but there is a difference between writing actual rape (which by definition is not wanted) and ravishment.

And, of course, all of this is compounded by the fact that when it becomes really popular, more people start talking like ravishment is what all women actually want and...no. It's really, really not what ALL women want. As a culture (from my perspective: US culture) there isn't really a concept at this point of people having varied sexual desires; there's still this idea that each gender is a monolith when it comes to sex. So I feel we're putting the cart before the horse a little bit in terms of fantasy acceptance...