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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-11-17 07:30 pm

[ SECRET POST #2876 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2876 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Boxtrolls]


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[One Piece]


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[Hockey RPF, Patrick Kane]


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[The Silmarillion]


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[Meghan Trainor: All About That Bass]


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[Radiant Historia]


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[Twin Peaks]


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[Meghan Trainor]


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[Taylor Swift]



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[Star Wars]













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feotakahari: (Default)

Re: Unpopular opinions

[personal profile] feotakahari 2014-11-18 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think the eco-liberal movement is salvageable. It's too linked with toxic movements like anti-vax and homeopathy. (Matthias Rath is a vitamin salesman who tells AIDs sufferers in Africa that Western medicine is a plot to make them sicker and they should just buy vitamins instead. Upper-middle-class white Americans celebrate him as a hero. What's wrong with this picture?)

Re: Unpopular opinions

(Anonymous) 2014-11-18 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
This makes me sad, because environmentalism is more important than ever.

It's not some "hippie fad" - or at least, it shouldn't be. At it's core, it's incredibly practical, because it's about the survival of human beings as a species and the preservation of our home. If we don't do something about it, and soon, it's going to turn into a huge problem, for all of us. And probably result in the displacement and deaths of many people.

Why we ever got associated with these anti-scientific nutjobs and con-artists, I have no idea. I hadn't heard of Matthias Rath until now - and now I wish I hadn't. What utter scum.

Re: Unpopular opinions

(Anonymous) 2014-11-18 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
The book you want to read is this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whole_Earth_Discipline

Trust me.

Re: Unpopular opinions

(Anonymous) 2014-11-18 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
Never heard of Matthias Rath; why is he even important? How much influence does he actually have?

More to the point: how do you feel about Vandana Shiva?
kallanda_lee: (Default)

Re: Unpopular opinions

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-11-18 05:43 am (UTC)(link)
I really isn't linked to those things in other places of the world (that you know, aren't America).
feotakahari: (Default)

Re: Unpopular opinions

[personal profile] feotakahari 2014-11-18 05:55 am (UTC)(link)
Out of curiosity, what's it linked to where you are? What sorts of stuff do they campaign about?
kallanda_lee: (Default)

Re: Unpopular opinions

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-11-18 06:33 am (UTC)(link)
Environmentalism is linked to politically leftist parties, mostly, so I'd say it's linked to socialism here (more so than liberalism, but liberal means something else here).

To a certain extent it's also linked to vegetarianism, or at the very least people who buy biological products, and who freecycle/upcycle.

Strangely it's liked both to people who are well-off and poor (because the richer ones are into the durability and conscious about food part, the poorer ones will be into re-using and eating veg food as a cheaper option).

On the negative end - it's often linked to people who are anti car, anti nuclear energy, and in worst case scenario anti progress. Basically the people who think you should get a job in your own village and drive there by bicycle.

Anti-vaxxers, who are very rare to begin with, are linked my to fringe religious opinions than to environmentalism.

Re: Unpopular opinions

(Anonymous) 2014-11-18 06:34 am (UTC)(link)
On the negative end - it's often linked to people who are anti car, anti nuclear energy, and in worst case scenario anti progress. Basically the people who think you should get a job in your own village and drive there by bicycle.

That's pretty much the crowd feo is referring to, it just happens to be the case that in the US those people are also anti-vaxxers.
kallanda_lee: (Default)

Re: Unpopular opinions

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-11-18 06:36 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, it's not linked here at all. Same for homepathy, I don't really see a link between being "green" and turning to homeopathy here - and the government's been really cracking down on that lately.

Also, you know, it's actually *working* here, because we are cutting down on nuclear energy and a lot of cities are making it difficult/expensive to go there by car.
Edited 2014-11-18 06:38 (UTC)