[ SECRET POST #352 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #352 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 10 pages, 250 secrets from Secret Submission Post #051.
Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken links, 0 not!secrets, 0 not!fandom, [ 1 2 3 ] too big, [ 1 ] hate letter.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Monday, December 24th, 2007.
Current Secret Submission Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[annwyd.livejournal.com]

I admit that I understand how people could find her annoying, because y'know, she is. I think she's supposed to be; I think everyone in that game is supposed to be at least a little bit dysfunctional. But I don't really understand the profound vitriolic hate fandom seems to have for her. o_o

I find that it helps me like all the characters, not just Rinoa, if I go through the game thinking that they're not supposed to represent cool tough heroes but rather screwed-up kids. Rinoa isn't supposed to be some kind of angel from on high, but rather a flighty, spoiled, bratty girl who genuinely wants to help people and the world but often gets caught up in her own self-centeredness instead--and who in her dysfunction matches up to Squall's dysfunction in a weirdly co-dependent-yet-just-right Thing that helps them both out.

But, y'know. I accept that not everyone likes it, I just wish the profound haet would die down somewhat.

[cephiedvariable.livejournal.com]

I agree with you completely on your analysis of the characters in FFVIII. I'm not fond of most of them, true, but that really has more to do with the way character development was communicated in the game- I appreciate them all as characters, but I cared more about the people who WEREN'T in my party than the people who were (except for Squall, he is easily the most elegantly developed protagonist in Final Fantasy). It's a personal preference thing on my part. I always cite FFVIII as my least favorite (which isn't completely true now that I've played them all :P), but in all honestly I'm glad it was exactly the way it was because it was a bold experiment that paved the way for a new method of story-telling I wish they hadn't ditched in XII that made IX and X also so brilliant.

TL;DR, my point is I really have no clue why I hate Rinoa so much because I understand that most of what's annoying about her are intentional and realistic flaws and usually the kind of characters who get on my nerves are the ones who's flaws are completely UNINTENTIONAL and full of, y'know, the author's issues showing or whatever. Rinoa certainly has her moments (like in your avatar, which is simply the most adorable thing in the Universe XDDD), but in the end I... I don't even know. :P

I do appreciate her and Squall's romance, though. Not necessarily the kind of relationship that appeals to me, but it was kind of the point of the game, so like, yeah, I too cannot stand the way so many people dump on it. FFVIII fandom almost annoys me more than FFVII fandom. VII's might be a great deal larger and more batshit, but VIII's is full of exactly the kind of slash fan that drives. Me. Nuts.

[annwyd.livejournal.com]

idk what to suggest--maybe read some recced fanfic about Rinoa or other FFVIII characters you want to appreciate more? That can help sometimes. Of course, it's up to you if you want to--I don't really care if people dislike a character I like, so long as they're reasonable about it. Which you're totally being. *shrug* I dunno, sometimes we just don't like someone. Lord knows there are characters like that for me, especially in TV and comics.

Ahahaha, one of the people who introduced me to FFVIII was a batshit crazy Seifer/Squall fan who insisted that they had soooo much chemistry (just look at that torture scene! ^_^) and it was so hot and I would haaaate Rinoa. But then, uh, by that point I didn't get along with her too well and I was kind of glad to disagree. XD

Also, as much as I like Squall/Rinoa, Locke/Celes is way up there too. (You can't hide it, I know that's your secret. ♥)

[cephiedvariable.livejournal.com]

WUT. MY SECRETS ARE NEVER OBVIOUS. IT'S NOT LIKE I USE THE SAME TWO FONTS ALL THE TIME. XDDDD

Eh, I'm not really looking for suggestions. I just like tl;dr? Although talking fandom opinions out with other people tends to often give me perspective. My roomate is slowly making me appreciate FFXII, and my Shakespeare professor turned me into a blithering fangirl when once I was a naysayer.

Ha ha ha, batshit Seifer/Squall fans. *head desk* Not that there's anything necessarily wrong with that pairing- I can see it, certainly, in the first two discs at least. I was more turned off by the way it was THE COOLEST THING EVER to pair up every pretty male with every other pretty male, oh Bishies lol lol and completely ignore the female characters because, hey, a large portion of the fandom hadn't even PLAYED the game, just read those "a yaoi fan's guide to..." write ups about it. I know that's actually a fairly common fad in video game fandom, but I never witnessed it in anything else to the extent that it was done with FFVIII. Also, I was like, twelve and really confused as to why all these 20 year old women were incapable of a game I found easy as pie.