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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-11-22 04:00 pm

[ SECRET POST #2881 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2881 ⌋

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Re: e_e

[personal profile] replicantangel 2014-11-22 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
What's wrong with fandom is people shipping who they want?

Yes, Bond has lots of sex (except Craig's Bond really has far less than his predecessors), but his established relationships are with M, Q and Moneypenny. They're the supporting characters with actual history and characterization, far beyond one movie/book.

Also, M and Bond have insane chemistry in "Skyfall" (Judi Dench in general is incredible throughout, but especially in her scenes with Daniel Craig). I didn't see it as romantic chemistry necessarily, but I can totally see how some people would. And older woman/younger man pairings are few and far between. More power to the fans of this pairing. Having the freedom to go outside the norm/canon/expected is kind of the point of fandom. I'd say these pairings are everything that's right and awesome about fandom.

Now if the fans of any pairing start haranguing writers/producers of the Bond films about making their ship canon and generally just making everyone else miserable, *that* is potentially what's wrong with fandom. But I'd say there are a lot of things "wrong" ahead of shipping who you want.

Re: e_e

(Anonymous) 2014-11-23 04:07 am (UTC)(link)
I don't exactly ship Bond/M, but I do see a powerful emotional tie between them, or at least I see Bond as very attached to M. (In Quantum of Solace, Bond goes on a rampage that I think was largely motivated by the bad guys threatening M, and again, yeah, their chemistry in Skyfall was off the charts.) There are a ton of cool ways to address that in fic, so I can also imagine shipping the two characters.

So, um, yeah. What you said.